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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject: dumb DMZ question Reply with quote

When one visits the DMZ, one always goes to the same place.

But the 38th parallel goes across the width of the country (duh).

What's the DMZ like everywhere else? Anyone live near the DMZ? Please share DMZ experience/knowledge that differs from the stuff you get on the USO tour, which is a microscopic slice of the 38th.
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makemischief



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adventurekorea.com has a pretty cool tour where you stay in a village called Cherwon (spelling?) in the civilian control zone right up next to the DMZ- it's very hilly and pastoral and quite peaceful and not touristy (at least when I was there). there's a pretty nice write up of it at:
http://www.adventurekorea.com/board/board.asp?id=tripreport&category=0&pageno=2&Sn=False&Ss=True&Sc=False&keyword=&rowno=22
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Re: dumb DMZ question Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
When one visits the DMZ, one always goes to the same place.

But the 38th parallel goes across the width of the country (duh).

What's the DMZ like everywhere else? Anyone live near the DMZ? Please share DMZ experience/knowledge that differs from the stuff you get on the USO tour, which is a microscopic slice of the 38th.


I've biked along the West Coast from Incheon to Ganghwa. It's not quite the DMZ, but it's pretty close. The road is fenced in on both sides. Along the ocean side there's also a wall and guard towers every 1/2 kilometer or so. From Ganghwa itself you can see guard towers on the bluffs.

I'll head back up to the DMZ itself this spring, but it's still across the Han from NK. So I imagine it'll just be more of fences, walls, and guard towers.
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Neil



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Location: Tokyo

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just north of Sokcho in Gangwondo there's a DMZ observatory, it's about as far north as you can get on the east coast.

Good scenery and a small museum...I'd recommend it, when you're finished Sokcho is a pretty nice city for a weekend.
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SPINOZA



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUMP!
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stumptown



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: dumb DMZ question Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
When one visits the DMZ, one always goes to the same place.

But the 38th parallel goes across the width of the country (duh).

What's the DMZ like everywhere else? Anyone live near the DMZ? Please share DMZ experience/knowledge that differs from the stuff you get on the USO tour, which is a microscopic slice of the 38th.


I live right around the DMZ and there's not much here but farmland. It's pretty quiet except for the heavy caliber gunshots occasionally.
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bluelake



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've visited at three different points; they each have their interests.

The first was at the northern tip of Kanghwa Island. It is an area where only Korean military and local farmers are allowed; I got in because I was doing joint research with profs from the Korea Military Academy. I looked over into the fake village across the water. That was when both sides stilled blared propaganda back and forth to each other. I looked across at some mountains through a ROK Marine's binoculars; when I commented, "I don't see anyone," he replied, "No, but they see you." Strangely, a couple days later was when the North and South had their first major naval clash at the NLL nearby where I was... Oops, did I do that? Shocked hehehe

The second was at Mt. Dora, nearby one of the infiltration tunnels. That time, I was there with my archery club and profs from the KMA. Interesting place, especially the train station. It's all ready for trains to go between the North and South; at the Pyongyang turnstiles, you half-expect people to be arriving from the North and others heading there.

The third was at the northernmost point on the East Coast. It's well-above the 38th. I was there with profs from my university. We had to don insulated camo jackets (it was in August--oof!). You could look across into the North and even watch NK outposts on CCTV (with zoom). The road that goes between the two sides is the one buses use to take tourists to Mt. Keumgang.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a few (Korean and non-Korean) friends stationed up at the DMZ. Some of my Korean friends had to patrol the DMZ around Gangwondo, and one of my friends is up at the east shore where North and South Korea meet, watching for boats to shoot out of the water.

They say sometimes you can talk to North Korean soldiers through the fence. I suggested to my friend he slip his band's demo tape to them.
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SPINOZA



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gonna go for a drive up there at some point.

A good day out!
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out http://www.aegibong.co.kr/index.php.

The South Korean side


The North Korean side


More pics on my blog.
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pest2



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the DMZ runs a bit North of the 38th parallel. From my home, I can hop on my bike and ride about 1/2 hour South, turn, and go up this canyon and pass this marker that says "here is the 38th parallel." But its about 50km to North Korea from here and in the opposite direction...
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pest2 wrote:
Actually, the DMZ runs a bit North of the 38th parallel. From my home, I can hop on my bike and ride about 1/2 hour South, turn, and go up this canyon and pass this marker that says "here is the 38th parallel." But its about 50km to North Korea from here and in the opposite direction...


the original dividing line in 1945 was the 38th parralel..

So kaesong was actually in South korea and Sokcho(and Seoroksan) was in North Korea or very very close to it....

After the war the border got changed a little so instead of being along the 38th line it slopes a little and there is about 50 km further north in the east than in the west.....
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ajgeddes



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
Check out http://www.aegibong.co.kr/index.php.


I went there, pretty cool. You have to go through a military checkpoint. We saw some guy farming his field with an animal. That sucks.
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pest2



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
pest2 wrote:
Actually, the DMZ runs a bit North of the 38th parallel. From my home, I can hop on my bike and ride about 1/2 hour South, turn, and go up this canyon and pass this marker that says "here is the 38th parallel." But its about 50km to North Korea from here and in the opposite direction...


the original dividing line in 1945 was the 38th parralel..

So kaesong was actually in South korea and Sokcho(and Seoroksan) was in North Korea or very very close to it....

After the war the border got changed a little so instead of being along the 38th line it slopes a little and there is about 50 km further north in the east than in the west.....


You can definitely tell if you're in that area because there are many many many green army trucks, guys carrying machine guns, and attack helicopters buzzing around....
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SPINOZA



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:

More pics on my blog.


Excellent. I had a look.
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