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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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 Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: The Ron Paul Surge! |
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GOP Ron Paul - Five Million Dollar Man?
Thursday, June 07, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com
Congressman Ron Paul�s donations have moved up - not by hundreds of thousands - but by millions as a result of his debate performances and groundswell of support on the Internet and in New Hampshire, observers close to the campaign say.
The move is especially impressive since as of March 31, 2007, he had perhaps $500,000 on hand (see candidate estimates below).
FMNN had previously reported � after the GOP presidential debate in South Carolina - that candidate Ron Paul�s (R-Tex) donations, large and small, had nearly doubled.
Now observers close to the campaign are revealing � with some astonishment � that donations to the campaign in recent weeks have pushed the total up to perhaps $4 or $5 million.
�That�s a huge number at this stage,� says one observer. �That starts to put him in a position where he can compete � state by state, anyway � with the major candidates.�
And this source added, �Of course, it�s hard to tell because the numbers keep changing � and thus nobody at the campaign has a firm count, at least not hour to hour. But the numbers are big. It�s definitely over three, probably over four, and if it hasn�t hit five yet, it will soon.�
At this rate, say observers, Ron Paul could have something like $10 million in his coffers inside of several months, and the total could keep growing � so long as he continues to hit on themes that Americans support � how to return the country to a true, small government, constitutional republic and how to end the war in Iraq. |
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=43192 |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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You wanna bet that Ron Paul doesn't come close to winning?
At any rate this is good news. I hope he runs as a third party candidate.
Then again I want Gullani or McCain to be president. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
You wanna bet that Ron Paul doesn't come close to winning?
At any rate this is good news. I hope he runs as a third party candidate.
Then again I want Gullani or McCain to be president. |
He won't win.
But he could play the role of a right-wing Nader and ensure that 4-8 years of more war isn't a guaranteed fact of American life. That is if he ran as a libertarian or such. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
You wanna bet that Ron Paul doesn't come close to winning?
At any rate this is good news. I hope he runs as a third party candidate.
Then again I want Gullani or McCain to be president. |
He won't win.
But he could play the role of a right-wing Nader and ensure that 4-8 years of more war isn't a guaranteed fact of American life. That is if he ran as a libertarian or such. |
He might just suck up most of the anti war vote - the right and the left , and the creepy hybrid of the two . But we will see.
Whether the US has 4- 8 more years of war depends a lot on whether the Baathists, the Khomenists and Jihad international gives up their war.
That is the real reason for the war in the first place. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| He might just suck up most of the anti war vote - the right and the left , and the creepy hybrid of the two . But we will see. |
You might be right. That would really suck.
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Whether the US has 4- 8 more years of war depends a lot on whether the Baathists, the Khomenists and Jihad international gives up their war.
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No. Joo. Strong border enforcement and sane immigration laws together with domestic policing and religious profiling is the only solution.
This is so elementary. If I punch Bob in the face, he will punch back. Right? Why is it any different for the muslims? They aren't non-violent Buddhists. They are actually prone to killing. Leave them alone. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:00 am Post subject: |
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No. Joo. Strong border enforcement and sane immigration laws together with domestic policing and religious profiling is the only solution. |
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This is so elementary. If I punch Bob in the face, he will punch back. Right? Why is it any different for the muslims? They aren't non-violent Buddhists. They are actually prone to killing. Leave them alone. |
They will continue trying to hit the US until the US gives in to their demands. Then after a short time they will have new demands.
Okay what ought the US do. To make them happy?
Ought the US be afraid to vote the way it sees fit at the UN cause Iran will go off and blow something up?
Ought the US not have trade relations and diplomatic relations with nations
like India and Israel that Al Qaeda and Iran don't like?
Ought the US not sell oil equipment to Saudi Arabia cause Al Qaeda will cut off heads if the US doesn't agree to their demands?
How about when Iran sends hit squads to kill translators of books in Japan? Or when the Iran blows up the Jewish community center in Argentina ought the US be afraid to say something cause Iran will go off?
Furthermore the US is such a target rich environment it can't all be protected. Also there are a lot of military tactics that the US has not even tried see the last chapter of Michael Scheuer's book Imperial Hubris for what the US could do. Just as important the US in the upcoming years will have a new generation of weapons that will give the US a lot more strategic punch than it has now. |
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enns
Joined: 02 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| Paul could surprise some people, as in getting 2nd or 3rd in a few states. He hasn't reached pre-collapse Howard Dean levels yet, but if the internet movement continues, watch out. Some of these same people donating money are probably those who are voting for him on Facebook(he is currently second for president, behind Obama), not scientific but indicative of the trend. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:29 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure RON PAUL definetely won't get nominated to a party that really revels and enjoys an aggressive war-oriented foreign policy.
But most of us are hoping he at least allows Republicans to evaluate and think about and have a voice within their own party if aggressive war-oriented foreign policy is the way to go or not.
Now if Chuck Hagel would announce a bid for Presidency.. we'd have some real interesting Republican Debates then. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:20 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure RON PAUL definetely won't get nominated to a party that really revels and enjoys an aggressive war-oriented foreign policy.
But most of us are hoping he at least allows Republicans to evaluate and think about and have a voice within their own party if aggressive war-oriented foreign policy is the way to go or not.
Now if Chuck Hagel would announce a bid for Presidency.. we'd have some real interesting Republican Debates then. |
It is not aggressive to go after those who are out to get you. It is defensive.
Khaddafy gave up his war or most of it. Now the Republicans aren't calling for bombing Libya. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
I'm sure RON PAUL definetely won't get nominated to a party that really revels and enjoys an aggressive war-oriented foreign policy.
But most of us are hoping he at least allows Republicans to evaluate and think about and have a voice within their own party if aggressive war-oriented foreign policy is the way to go or not.
Now if Chuck Hagel would announce a bid for Presidency.. we'd have some real interesting Republican Debates then. |
It is not aggressive to go after those who are out to get you. It is defensive. |
Are you legitimazing Iraqi resistance?  |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
I'm sure RON PAUL definetely won't get nominated to a party that really revels and enjoys an aggressive war-oriented foreign policy.
But most of us are hoping he at least allows Republicans to evaluate and think about and have a voice within their own party if aggressive war-oriented foreign policy is the way to go or not.
Now if Chuck Hagel would announce a bid for Presidency.. we'd have some real interesting Republican Debates then. |
It is not aggressive to go after those who are out to get you. It is defensive. |
Are you legitimazing Iraqi resistance? |
nope what is the Iraqi resistance fighting for? IF they were fighting for Iraq then they would have gone along with elections.
I wonder do you think the Kurds or the Shias (80% of Iraq ) would want to be ruled by the Iraqi resistance?
As I have said they certainly have the right to ask for independence but they are not asking for that.
Thanks |
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| ron paul could win- i dont see why not- there is still plenty of time- and he will continue to gain contributions and supporters with his message of true liberty. i even got my neocon mom to vote for him. no one should say he won't win as it dissuades voters- he is the best candidate and one that could return the usa to what it was meant to be- a free fu**ing country. so vote ron paul. yeehaw. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| Ron Paul is going to win! I can feel it!! |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| Are you legitimazing Iraqi resistance? |
I figure he's okay with it as long as it legitimizes his political stances. One hand shakes the other.... |
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deadman
Joined: 27 May 2006
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| I'm sure ... |
It is not aggressive to go after those who are out to get you. It is defensive. |
Are you legitimazing Iraqi resistance? |
nope what is the Iraqi resistance fighting for? IF they were fighting for Iraq then they would have gone along with elections.
I wonder do you think the Kurds or the Shias (80% of Iraq ) would want to be ruled by the Iraqi resistance?
As I have said they certainly have the right to ask for independence but they are not asking for that.
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Are you perhaps legitimising the Palestinian resistance, then?
After all, didn't Israel start it all with terrorist bombings and ethnic cleansings?
By your logic, the Palestinians should defend themselves until Israel stops stealing land and water. |
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