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In the context of the sentence, is "White Boy" racist?
Yes
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 41%  [ 7 ]
No
52%
 52%  [ 9 ]
Its racist no matter how you use "white boy"
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 17

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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: In the context of the sentence, is "White Boy" off Reply with quote

This is from a post in Job Related. I wanted to see what people thought. It was a surprise to me that people found "white boy" to be racist so I want to get other people's input.

Koreans prefer to have a "White Boy" tutor their kids in English.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really have a problem with it. Maybe depends who's saying it. I kind of imagine it's a kyopo who's jealous because it's hard to get jobs.
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query29



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: right behind you

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"boy" makes the phrase sound derogatory, but have we gotten to the point where simply stating the ethnicity of someone is considered racist?

If so then my black friend is going to be pissed!
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

query29 wrote:
"boy" makes the phrase sound derogatory, but have we gotten to the point where simply stating the ethnicity of someone is considered racist?

If so then my black friend is going to be pissed!


Oh, your black friend? Why don't y'all go back to South Africa? Cool
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: In the context of the sentence, is "White Boy" Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
This is from a post in Job Related. I wanted to see what people thought. It was a surprise to me that people found "white boy" to be racist so I want to get other people's input.

Koreans prefer to have a "White Boy" tutor their kids in English.


If it is racist then that is the exact wording you want to describe
the racist attitude you are talking about.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked before... at what age is it not appropriate to call someone a boy?

If you said a White Male, I don't think people would have objected.
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"white boy"'s only racist if it has "punk ass" before it.
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oneofthesarahs



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwemory wrote:
"white boy"'s only racist if it has "punk ass" before it.


No, the correct subsequent word to "punk ass" is clearly "cracka."
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oneofthesarahs wrote:
cwemory wrote:
"white boy"'s only racist if it has "punk ass" before it.


No, the correct subsequent word to "punk ass" is clearly "cracka."


no, no, no Smile ...

"cracka" is appropriately preceded by "cracka ass" Smile.
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Nemesis



Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
If you said a White Male, I don't think people would have objected.


Well, white people woudn't, I guess... Rolling Eyes

Just wondering... is the objectional point the use of the word "boy", or the fact that they only want a white person for the job?

One is far more ignorant than the other, from this (non-white) western male's point of view.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the problem isn't with the word "white" but with the word "boy". If the phrase had been "white guy" or "white male" then it wouldn't be offensive. Maybe its that "boy" implies immaturity and ignorance.

After some reflection, I'm starting to understand why it would be offensive to some people.

The context of the sentence was to describe a race/gender WITHOUT any racist undertones. Obviously, due to the nature of writing on a message board, the message can easily be misinterpreted. Depending on the tone of voice and the inflection of the words, I can understand how someone could interpret that as a derogatory statement.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Well, Debbie thinks this is all about her biological clock, and I.."

"She stopped screaming long enough to tell you that?"

"Huh? No no no no, no, the other Debbie. Debbie the teacher.. ?"

"Oh, you mean.. Black Debbie."

"Whoa whoa whoa whoa--why is she "Black" Debbie?"

"No, not in a BAAAD way. It's just to tell them apart, because she's.. black!"



Tell me who and I'll roll through with a cookie for your whole crew. (No Google, son.)
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"White Boy" is used a racial slur. I was called it a lot growing up. Has nothing to do with age, just skin color. As far as racial slurs go, it just doesnt pack the punch that the N-word or other slurs have. "Honkey"never caught on. Maybe whites dont care about being called names?
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't a 'boy' a male of less than 18 years old? By the general rule of thumb used in western countries.

So, who would want someone less than 18 to teach their children? I would consider that too young to be an experienced teacher.

Therefore, if you take out the meaning of 'boy' to be younger than 18, then what we are left with is the other usage of 'boy'. The kind of usage we associate with racist southern Americans when addressing black men.

So I voted yes. It is a racist term.

But it could be said by white people themselves with a sense of humor.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It implies racism on the part of Koreans, not on the part of the speaker.
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