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thursdays child



Joined: 21 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: having a shower after acupuncture.. Reply with quote

Is this a bunch of beep or do I just not understand....

Just had acupuncture (did the trick) and came home... My Korean MIL is insisting I not have a shower for 24 hours. It started an argument between us. She cannot say 'why' I shouldn't shower but can't believe I don't know about this!

Is this just a 미신 or is there a reason.

(P.S - I had a shower - it's hot and I played basketball)
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: true... Reply with quote

actually you were told correctly...the acupuncture releases energy in your body (this does not mean it creates heat energy), that is sensitive to heat variations, so actually, if you take or in your case took a shower within the period of time you were told not to, then you will greatly reduce or even eliminate the healing affects the acupunture has on your body, with the possibility of some fairly nasty side effects as well...You can PM me if you want more specific information, and I will be glad to give it to you...

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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it's proven medical fact taught to every doctor and nurse in the world ever. What's wrong with you? Do you wanna die?

Sorry, do you mean it's a 'bunch of crap' as in acupuncturists don't believe it or it's 'a bunch of crap' in that modern science doesn't believe it?
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: he thinks... Reply with quote

from her post it appears she is questioning the legitimacy of the no shower rule after acupuncture...

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maeil



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Location: Haebangchon

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second what tob55 said.

You won't die, certainly, but I have also always been taught never to shower or wash after acupuncture. I was never told 24 hours (always less than that), but everyone is different.
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thursdays child



Joined: 21 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooooh - thanks for that. I didn't know!

I checked out some acupuncture sites and could not find that info.

I just thought it was a korean superstitious thing - my MIL is full of them. My acupuncturist did not give me any directions regarding showers.

pps. I'm not a 'he'
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also noticed that doctors will mention not to shower after minor surgery and that even the fellas who do piercings will mention it, but I've only heard this from Koreans. Is there any necessity to this? I was always told to keep wounds clean. But from the sound of this it is about 'energy', thus has a very pseudo-science feel to it.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't taking a shower right after acupuncture increase your risk of infection through the 'holes' made by the needles?
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thursdays child



Joined: 21 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just went back to the acupuncturist and asked him...

He said it's fine to have a shower but try not to change your body temperature too much. So take a luke warm shower. He also said it's a popular misconception about 'no showers' - he says it stems from the old days when you could only wash in cold water or go to a Sauna and have a hot one.

And it's only for 6 hours before and after treatment that caution should be applied.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:42 pm    Post subject: risks... Reply with quote

There is always the risk of introducing bacteria and other substances which could lead to infection when the skin is pierced in any way...Regarding the transfer and release of energy from having the acupuncture, it is not as much pseudo-sciience or pseudo-medicine as it would seem, because the physiology of the human body has natural patterns of energy flowing from different parts of the body...The acupuncture works to release energy that is blocked for some reason, thus if the energy is disrupted by introducing a heat source or pressure source from something else such as a shower, it will produce a range of limitation to complete elimination of the healing process for which the acupuncture was given in the first place...

My particular area of specialization is in acupressure, but the same principles apply for both areas of practice...The absolute minimum would be 6 hours as your acupuncturist said, but it is always better to err on the side of safety first...
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: risks... Reply with quote

tob55 wrote:

My particular area of specialization is in acupressure, but the same principles apply for both areas of practice...The absolute minimum would be 6 hours as your acupuncturist said, but it is always better to err on the side of safety first...


But which is it? Safe to shower and run the risk of depleting your 'NRG' or safe to not shower and run the risk of infection?
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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not as much pseudo-sciience or pseudo-medicine as it would seem, because the physiology of the human body has natural patterns of energy flowing from different parts of the body.


So, scientifically, what is this energy? What's its source? Is it electrical? I mean, you do say it's not pseudo-science. So it's science then. So what kind of energy is this? If it's scientific it should be easily identifiable.

BTW, I have an open mind and will be more than happy to be convinced about this 'energy'.
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tob55



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: no debate... Reply with quote

The engery is both electrical and fluid...connected to specific and non-specific neurological pathways in the body...Medical research studies using magnetic ressonance imagery (MRI) in combination with acupuncture in particular have shown some interesting results regarding the flow of energy throughout the body...Western medicine is making more discoveries regarding the use of acupuncture as it regards the "energy" of which you speak...This is why it is becoming more common among allopathic physicians to have an open mind regarding its use...As I said, my particular area of practice is in acupressure, so I cannot speak specifically to the use of acupuncture, even though I studied it when I was in medical school...

I give very little credence to people who suppose that the "energy" is spiritual in nature only...While there are research studies pointing to the power of the mind regarding healing and the body, the practice of medicine in any form should as you have stated be based in scientific findings that can be tested and proven to work...I am hoping to do some additional research in this area and would be interested in hearing any questions you have regarding your own findings, if you want to share them...You can present them here or PM me which would be fine as well, and I will take some time to give you more information...Thanks
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: no debate... Reply with quote

tob55 wrote:
The engery is both electrical and fluid...connected to specific and non-specific neurological pathways in the body...Medical research studies using magnetic ressonance imagery (MRI) in combination with acupuncture in particular have shown some interesting results regarding the flow of energy throughout the body...Western medicine is making more discoveries regarding the use of acupuncture as it regards the "energy" of which you speak...This is why it is becoming more common among allopathic physicians to have an open mind regarding its use...As I said, my particular area of practice is in acupressure, so I cannot speak specifically to the use of acupuncture, even though I studied it when I was in medical school...

I give very little credence to people who suppose that the "energy" is spiritual in nature only...While there are research studies pointing to the power of the mind regarding healing and the body, the practice of medicine in any form should as you have stated be based in scientific findings that can be tested and proven to work...I am hoping to do some additional research in this area and would be interested in hearing any questions you have regarding your own findings, if you want to share them...You can present them here or PM me which would be fine as well, and I will take some time to give you more information...Thanks


As far as I understand any tests that showed results with acupuncture involved an electrical current being used with the needle. As far as i understand the word energy, it does not flow around the body. If you are talking about 'qi' then that has never been proven to exist.


I would assume your accupuncturist told you not to take a shower cos thats how he felt on the day. The other guy told you you could cos thats how he felt. Thats how it works.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
Wouldn't taking a shower right after acupuncture increase your risk of infection through the 'holes' made by the needles?

What are you showering in?
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