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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: Disappointing news for the Islamophobes |
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As I read this article, I couldn't help thinking of the numerous times I've seen Dave's posters say "while most muslims aren't terrorists, most terrorists are muslims." It amuses me that this regularly goes unchallenged. Well, here is some annoying proof that terrorists are often not muslims:
A Neglected Report from Europol/The Islamic Threat to Europe: By the Numbers
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There were 498 incidents in eleven EU countries last year labelled as "terrorist attacks." The Basque separatist group ETA did best (136 terrorist attacks) and was responsible for the only deadly attack, killing two in Madrid. The remaining 497 fortunately cost no human lives.
How about the Islamic terrorists then? Considering the perpetual warnings in our daily papers, the findings in the Europol report is, to say the least, surprising. The truth is that Islamists only carried out one out of the 498 terrorist attacks in the European Union in 2006. Don't believe me? The entire report is available on Europol's website. Had Islamic fundamentalists been behind a higher number of attacks-say 136-it would have been front page news at every big daily. One attack is simply too few--it won't do if the image of an "Islamic threat" is to live on.
The Europol report devotes several pages to Islamist terrorism, despite the low number. Except for the one attack in Germany this group was responsible for (which, by the way, failed and resulted in no victims), also Denmark and the United Kingdom reported that Islamists plotted to carry out one attack in each country respectively (incidentally, all three countries are accessory to the illegal occupation of Iraq). However, since these plans in both cases were exposed before they were set to work, they were not included among the 498. Either way, even after taking these plots into account, the report proves the genuine magnitude of Islamic terrorism in Europe--it's not exactly a huge threat.
If we look at the people arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences, the figures are rather disproportionate; about half of them arrested were Muslim. In plain English: Muslims are a group causing very little terrorism in Europe, while at the same time much more likely to be arrested on suspicion of it. The constant media coverage of Muslims being arrested creates the false image of a serious threat in order to benefit the imperialist world-view Washington wants us to adopt. Meanwhile the Americans and their accomplices are carrying out genocide in Iraq. Clearly, something needs to be done about the media. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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I don't believe you.  |
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hubba bubba
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I'm really worried about those crazy Basques when I get on a plane.
Look, it's a Basque, run! |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Let's see small European terror group launches 497 attacks killing two.
Compares to thousands dead in one Islam-o-fascist terror attack.
Campares to thousands of attacks throughout the middle east.
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
(Albert Einstein)
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cosmo

Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:20 pm
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Statistic don't lie, people who use statics lie.
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Does it mention how many of those terror attacks are suicidal ones? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Why am I disappointed?
I honestly thought that this might be an article about muslims saying it isn't ok to kill Jews or murder women or rape or whatever is clearly permissible in the koran. Nope.
Just another pathetic attempt to avoid a very real problem with a "look over there". |
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Masta_Don

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:47 am Post subject: |
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cbclark4 wrote: |
Let's see small European terror group launches 497 attacks killing two.
Compares to thousands dead in one Islam-o-fascist terror attack.
Campares to thousands of attacks throughout the middle east.
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
(Albert Einstein)
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So? Muslim fundamentalists are more efficient. Gotta give them credit for that. |
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postfundie

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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because we all know that there's no difference between a Basque gunman who targets and kills one Spanish politician in Madrid and your average muslim terrorist who seeks to kill as many as possible, children included. Yep no difference there..... |
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stevemcgarrett

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Big Bird,
Tell that to Saad Hariri, son of the assassinated president of Lebanon.
Tell that to the tens of thousands of common Palestinians fleeing for their lives from the refugee camp in southern Lebanon occupied by Hezbollah extremists.
Tell that to the growing exodus from the Gaza strip, tired of Hamas and the Martyr's Brigade gangster tactics against their own government.
Tell that to the Kurds who wish they could gain independence from the rest of Iraq.
Tell that to the Sunnis and Shiites whose mosques are destroyed by those who claim to be defenders of the faith.
Tell that to the black refugees of genocide in Darfur in Sudan, oppressed by their own Muslim government.
Tell that to elected leaders of the Afghan government, still fighting Taliban who have so much respect for their own culture that they stone women and dynamite Buddhist statues.
Tell that to the moderates in Bali whose very livelihood depends on the tourist business as they try to ward off the Jemaah Islamiah or the same in Mindinao with Abu Sayef.
Then get back to me. |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Yeah BB, I agree. Look what those Basque terrorists are up to in Thailand. |
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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Disappointing news for the Islamophobes |
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Big_Bird wrote: |
(incidentally, all three countries are accessory to the illegal occupation of Iraq). |
I like how the author drops this little comment in as if it makes it perfectly acceptable for terrorists to target the innocent men and women in those three countries.
-S- |
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cosmo

Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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ROTFLMAO
This is the funniest thread in ages. Thank you for your comedic input,
and thank you too, for your (unwitting) contribution.
Great!
AbbeFaria ~
"I like how the author drops this little comment in as if it makes it perfectly acceptable for terrorists to target the innocent men and women in those three countries. "
It IS perfectly acceptable.
The question is, to whom is it acceptable.
Of course we know the answer, it is acceptable to terrorists and those who promote their ideology. |
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ChimpumCallao

Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: your mom
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: |
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May I also see the data on beheadings, arson, gang rapes, skinning people alive because they are Jews, stabbings, murders, female genital mutilation, the subjugation of women in general, beatings, and being a general drain on civilized society by sitting at home, collecting welfare, and planning your next trip to Pakistan?
Now Big Bird, the statement behind your post, which you are always too chicken to make, is that Muslims are not that violent. Secular/Christian/ Etc Europeans are more violent than Muslims. Is this what you are trying to say? Why cloak behind the article?
I think Muslims are a greater danger to Europeans than Europeans- at least I have the cojones to say so, instead of hiding behind bad math and an apologist mentality. |
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ChimpumCallao

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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:30 am Post subject: |
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And what are the Basque doing outside of Europe?
How about the Muslims? Are they doing any terrorizing outside of Europe? |
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