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[dmbfan]

Here is a REAL INTERVIEW with an illegal Mexican at a protest march in
Texas .

This is good! Below is a good example of a discussion with a master of
circular logic. Don't be logical, don't respect the truth or your
adversary,
just say what you think makes a new case when the previous case gets
too difficult to defend. On the streets of downtown Houston, May 1,
2006.

Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station:

Jim: Juan, I see that you and thousands of other protesters are
marching
in the streets to demonstrate for your cause.

Exactly what is your cause and what do you expect to accomplish by
this
protest?

Juan: We want our rights. We will show you how powerful we are.
We will bring Houston to its knees!

Jim: What rights?

Juan: Our right to live here...legally. Our right to get all the
benefits
you get.

Jim: When did you come to the United States ?

Juan: Six years ago. I crossed over the border at night with seven
other
friends.

Jim: Why did you come?
Juan: For work. I can earn as much in a month as I could in a year in
Mexico.
Besides, I get free health care, our Mexican children can go to school
free,
if I lose my job I will get Welfare, and someday I will have the
Social
Security.
Nothing like that in Mexico!

Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our immigration laws when you
came?

Juan: No!Why should I feel bad? I have a right to be here. I have a
right
to
amnesty. I paid lots of money for my Social Security and Green Cards.

Jim: How did you acquire those documents?

Juan: From a guy in Dallas. He charged me a lot of money too.

Jim: Did you know that those documents were forged?

Juan: It is of no matter. I have a right to be here and work.

Jim: What is the "right" you speak of?

Juan: The right of all Aliens. It is found in your Constitution. Read
it!

Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember it saying anything about
rights for Aliens.

Juan: It is in that part where it says that all men have Alien rights,
like
the right to pursue happiness. I wasn't happy in Mexico, so I came
here.

Jim: I think you are referring to the declaration of Independence and
that document speaks to unalienable rights .. Not Alien rights.

Juan: Whatever.

Jim: Since you are demanding to become an American citizen, why
then are you carrying a Mexican Flag?

Juan: Because I am Mexican.

Jim: But you said you want to be given amnesty to become a
US citizen.

Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is our country, a part of
Mexico that you Gringos stole from us. We want it returned to its
rightful owner.

Jim: Juan,you are standing in Texas. After winning the war with Mexico
Texas became a Republic, and later Texans voted to join the USA.
It was not stolen from Mexico.

Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was stolen. So was California ,
New Mexico and Arizona. It is just like all the other stuff you
Gringos steal, like oil and babies. You are a country of thieves.

Jim: Babies? You think we steal babies?

Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam and China. I see them
all over the place. You let all these foreigners in, but try to keep
us
Mexicans out. How is this fair?

Jim: So, you really don't want to become an American citizen then.

Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a right to live, work, and
speak their native language wherever and whenever they please.
That's another thing we demand. All signs and official documents
should be in Spanish . Teachers must teach in Spanish. Soon, more
people here in Houston will speak Spanish than English. It is our
right!

Jim: If I were to cross over the border into Mexico without proper
documentation, what rights would I have there?

Juan: None.You would probably go to jail, but that's different.

Jim: How is it different? You said everyone has the right to live
wherever they please.

Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land grabbing thieves. Now you
want Mexico too? Mexico has its rights. You Gringos have no rights
in Mexico. Why would you want to go there anyway? There is no
free medical service, schools, or welfare there for foreigners such as
you.
You cannot even own land in my country. Stay in the country of your
birth.

Jim: I can see that there is no way that we can agree on this issue.
Thank you for your comments.

Juan: Viva Mexico!

Pass this along to every American citizen in your address books and to
every representative in the state and federal government. If you
choose
to
remain uninvolved, do not be amazed when you no longer have a nation
to
call your own nor anything you have worked for left since it will be
"redistributed" to the activists while you are so peacefully staying
out
of the
"fray". Check history, it is full of nations/empires that disappeared
when

its
citizens no longer held their core beliefs and values.
One person CAN make a difference. One plus one plus one plus one plus
one plus one........

The battle for our secure borders and immigration laws that actually
mean
something.

[oskinny1]

Pretty much not so much.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/interview.asp

[eamo]

Who would actually believe that was a real interview..............?

[dmbfan]

[endo]

Well this interview does a lot to support the cause of the anti-illegal immigration crowd.

It's great propoganda.

Now do the majority of Mexican illegal immigrants feel this way? I don't think so, but I'm not really sure.


Anyways, just build a security fence from Cali to Texas. Obviously many other things need to be done as well. You cannot be a soverign state when illegals are crossing the border at will.

[riley]

Read oskinny1's link and you'll see some valid points raised by snopes on why it is probably a fake.

[Qinella]

[dmbfan]

[dmbfan]

[Qinella]

[dmbfan]

Yeah, nice try there.

All I said, was that "This was sent to me....".


But again, nice try with the assumption game...........gets old though. But, if it makes you feel like an ESL forum armchair general..............well, whatever floats your boat, man.

dmbfan

[endo]

source?

[dmbfan]

Ah, the source. It was sent to me from a friend here in Korea, part of his mass email. I don't know where it came from before that, though. I thought it was rather funny, though.

[JMO]

Is 'boarder' a pun, as in people are illegally boarding the USA?

Anyway building a fence from Cali to Texas wouldn't work and would also hurt the US economically. Cheap workers are essential to the american economy. You should be welcoming these mexicans with open arms. After all it was those sort of people that built your country in the first place.

[dmbfan]