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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: Korea Times just a fount of bad health advice |
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First they have that regular column by an oriental medicine doc and I found her recycling an urban legend about "you need to drink 8 glasses of water a day" as health advice. Then last week they had a big feature written by some credulous westerner who found some guy who claims he invented a machine that cures cancer. Golly. Not a hint of medical skepticism. And then today there's this bit about injecting placenta:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/06/117_4890.html
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Kang, a 37-year-old salaried office worker, is another fervent supporter of placenta injection. After receiving the placenta injection twice a week for over three months, he says he has completely got rid of fatigue and hangovers, which would bother him before.
``I found placenta injections to be very effective for revitalizing health. I would have the injection more often if I could afford it,�� said Kang. |
Wow, if you can't believe the medical opinion of a salaried office worker...
The last paragraph of the article has a small quote from a medical professional, albeit not a wiff of talk about this actually being effective. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Lucky no one really takes the English rags seriously |
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Jarome_Turner
Joined: 10 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:25 am Post subject: |
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If you get a chance, check out the bottom of the same page (I think it's the same page anyway.... saw it today at work) at the opinion piece titled "Number Two Can Never Be Number One" or something as silly as that. It is a very enlightening read about the evils of English as a second language in South Korea, and how learning a second language harms a childs ability to ever completely be able to speak their first language perfectly. The usual nationalistic nonsense about English "robbing" Korean children of their culture, followed by the 'educated' opinion of the author on how second language learning should not be pursued until adulthood. All this from a grad student at SNU no less.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2007/06/162_4895.html
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| Jarome_Turner wrote: |
If you get a chance, check out the bottom of the same page (I think it's the same page anyway.... saw it today at work) at the opinion piece titled "Number Two Can Never Be Number One" or something as silly as that. It is a very enlightening read about the evils of English as a second language in South Korea, and how learning a second language harms a childs ability to ever completely be able to speak their first language perfectly. The usual nationalistic nonsense about English "robbing" Korean children of their culture, followed by the 'educated' opinion of the author on how second language learning should not be pursued until adulthood. All this from a grad student at SNU no less.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2007/06/162_4895.html
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That was hillarious.
What a complete tool. |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:04 am Post subject: |
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Good......Lord..................
These people never cease to amaze me..........three weeks left, three weeks left.
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| Jarome_Turner wrote: |
If you get a chance, check out the bottom of the same page (I think it's the same page anyway.... saw it today at work) at the opinion piece titled "Number Two Can Never Be Number One" or something as silly as that. It is a very enlightening read about the evils of English as a second language in South Korea, and how learning a second language harms a childs ability to ever completely be able to speak their first language perfectly. The usual nationalistic nonsense about English "robbing" Korean children of their culture, followed by the 'educated' opinion of the author on how second language learning should not be pursued until adulthood. All this from a grad student at SNU no less.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2007/06/162_4895.html
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That was hillarious.
What a complete tool. |
Gotta love it.
I wonder if he or she wrote that in English or had it translated into English?
It's the biggest bag of bullpucky I've read in a while and on the website of a newspaper...DELIGHTFUL!
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:17 am Post subject: |
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So wait, they inject actual placenta into non-pregnant people?
That is horrifyingly disgusting, possibly even worse than placenta-eating. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| Jarome_Turner wrote: |
If you get a chance, check out the bottom of the same page (I think it's the same page anyway.... saw it today at work) at the opinion piece titled "Number Two Can Never Be Number One" or something as silly as that. It is a very enlightening read about the evils of English as a second language in South Korea, and how learning a second language harms a childs ability to ever completely be able to speak their first language perfectly. The usual nationalistic nonsense about English "robbing" Korean children of their culture, followed by the 'educated' opinion of the author on how second language learning should not be pursued until adulthood. All this from a grad student at SNU no less.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2007/06/162_4895.html
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I don't think I've ever encountered such bewildering logic and spectacular wrongness in print before. Amazing.
He really thinks Koreans could abandon the Korean language in favor of English? Koreans are not proud of their language??!!! |
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PeterDragon
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Well, the sad thing is that the "second language destroys culture" thing is alive and well in the U.S. as well. A lot people back home are pushing to suppress the teaching/use of Spanish language---- so those Mexicans don't take over our country, d@mmit!
But this....
"Finally, I must insist that English should be learnt at the time we achieve our cognitive ability to learn it. This means that English mustn�t be learnt until adulthood after our cognitive ability advances"
.... this is absurd. It is a scientific fact, repeatedly proven in cognitive testing and behavioral studies that the best time to learn a language is when one is very young, and the older we get, the less capable we are of learning a new language. |
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Newbie
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| PeterDragon wrote: |
Well, the sad thing is that the "second language destroys culture" thing is alive and well in the U.S. as well. A lot people back home are pushing to suppress the teaching/use of Spanish language---- so those Mexicans don't take over our country, d@mmit!
But this....
"Finally, I must insist that English should be learnt at the time we achieve our cognitive ability to learn it. This means that English mustn�t be learnt until adulthood after our cognitive ability advances"
.... this is absurd. It is a scientific fact, repeatedly proven in cognitive testing and behavioral studies that the best time to learn a language is when one is very young, and the older we get, the less capable we are of learning a new language. |
And how could he not realize this?? You don't need any indepth studies to realize it's true. We all see it every day. Kids who have been learning English since 2/3/4 years old can actually SPEAK in English. Many of our co-workers, who started studying at a later age... well, having a conversation with them ain't no walk in the park. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| How could he not realise? If you have met the assembly of dopes, d1ckheads and dropkicks pushed out of the Korean university system, you might see how someone could make a statement of such bewildering f#ckheadery and still have the gall to call themselves a grad student. |
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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| mm2, you are the skeptic every philosopher dreams of having. Not that I disagree with you in this case... just saying.... |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| No need to learn Korean, folks. At the rate that konglish is getting pumped out, the Korean language will be 50% derived from English by the end of this decade. Soon scholars will call Korean language a lingual cousin of English. |
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Ilsanman
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Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:42 am Post subject: |
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"Finally, I must insist that English should be learnt at the time we achieve our cognitive ability to learn it. This means that English mustn�t be learnt until adulthood after our cognitive ability advances"
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So exactly when does a Korean's cognitive ability advance? |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| First they have that regular column by an oriental medicine doc and I found her recycling an urban legend about "you need to drink 8 glasses of water a day" as health advice. |
I think basically that it varies depending on the person. You can get up to half your daily water allowance from food though. Other beverages can supply water as well.
I can guarantee though that no one will be put at risk for being overhydrated by drinking 8 to 10 glasses if you are an average adult.
Calculating Your Own Daily Water Requirements
By Dr. Thomas Stearns Lee
The human body is composed of 25% solids and 75% water. Brain tissue is said to consist of 85% water.
It has become a practice to regard a "dry mouth" as a signal of body water needs, which is further assumed to be well-regulated if the sensation of "dry mouth" is not present. A dry mouth is the last outward sign of extreme dehydration, however. Damage occurs to the body at a persistent lower level of hydration. Because of a gradually failing thirst sensation, the body becomes chronically and increasingly dehydrated.
Signals of dehydration can be any of the following symptoms:
Heartburn, stomach ache
Non-infectious recurring or chronic pain
Low back pain
Headache
Mental irritation and depression
Water retention ( ironic but true! )
Further problems often develop when the sensation of thirst urges an intake of water, and instead, soda pop, coffee, or alcohol-containing beverages are taken to quench the thirst. While these beverages contain water, they are actually dehydrating fluids. Not only do they eliminate the water contained in them, but they also cause you to lose further amounts of water from your body's reserves!
Daily Water Requirements: Drink 50-75% of your body weight in ounces. Sedentary people: 50%; Active people: 75%
Example Calculation:
Pounds of body weight 150 lbs.
Water requirement from above
(75% of body weight for an active person) 112.5 oz
Add for dryness of climate +16 oz
Add for strenous exercise +16 oz
Total per day 144.5 oz.
Divide by the number of hours you're awake to find your hourly water requirement: 144.5 � 16 = 9 oz.
Therefore, a 150-pound active person who works out should drink 9 oz. of water for each hour awake.
This is only an estimate. "Actual milage may vary."
http://www.naturodoc.com/library/nutrition/water.htm
How Much Water Should I Drink?
For years we have been told that we should drink a "minimum" of 8 eight ounce glasses of water each day. If our goal is to maintain a "minimum" level of health this "8 glass" rule is correct. If our goal is to achieve an enhanced level of health we must consume some level of water above our minimum daily needs.
The world we live in today is much different than it was 70 years ago when this rule was first published in medical journals. Each day we are exposed to a multitude of toxic chemicals and environmental pollutants that didn't exist 70 years ago. We live more hectic and stressful lifestyles. We consume processed and preserved foods. All of these factors require an increased intake of healthy water to offset the damage.
Water is our body's only way to flush toxins and wastes out of our system. The following table will show a recommended intake of water for enhanced health based on your lifestyle.
Quick Questionnaire
1. How much do you weigh?
2. Do you drink at least one caffeinated beverage daily?
YES NO
3. Do you drink 10 or more alcoholic beverages per week?
YES NO
4. Do you exercise or work to the point of perspiring regularly?
YES NO
5. Are you trying to lose weight?
YES NO
6. Are you sick or taking medications?
YES NO
7. Are you pregnant?
YES NO
8. Will you be traveling by plane in the next 3-5 days?
YES NO
9. Do you smoke, are you regularly exposed to 2nd hand smoke
or do you live/work in a city with air quality problems?
YES NO
10. Do you have arthritis, minor back pains or indigestion?
YES NO
11. Do you take nutritional supplements?
YES NO
12. Do you have a high sugar diet?
YES NO
Calculate Recommendation
http://www.aquasana.com/how_much.cfm
Aquasana.com recommends that you drink 13 eight-ounce glasses of water daily based on your responses.
Well, that's for me anyway because I exercise a lot. Take the test and see for yourself. Seems to be a pretty good rule of thumb.
The Ultimate Energy Drink
Did you know that in a world of energy drinks and caffeinated beverages Water is the ultimate energy drink. Research shows that a lack of water consumption leads to fatigue and headaches and unfortunately most of us are walking around dehydrated without realizing it. The human body is made up of about 70% water; not diet coke or double lattes.  Water is the fuel source you need for increased energy and enhanced health. Every one of your body's processes is enhanced with proper hydration. Digestion improves, your metabolism increases and your blood flows easier. Think of water as the oil your engine needs to make every thing run properly.
So how much water should we drink? While we all have heard the 8 cups a day rule, this is actually a myth. Each person, based on their weight and activity levels, requires different amounts of water. We should drink half our body weight in ounces. As an example, a 100lb person would need 50ounces of water a day to stay hydrated. For those who exercise and sweat a lot you must drink even more water depending on how much you perspire during your workouts.
http://www.jongordon.com/120406-TheUltimateEnergyDrink.htm |
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