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Morton



Joined: 06 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Why is the US army still in Korea? Reply with quote

I've been told many reason for this but i've still to see any real facts. I searched the internet and couldn't see anything so i was wondering why this was the case?

I'm not against the US army or Americans in general.

Thanks.
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darkhorse_NZ



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly, I spose to help defend South Korea in any possible invasion by the North.

And secondly, to project power into East Asia against a rising China.
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Areut



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Why is the US army still in Korea? Reply with quote

Morton wrote:
I've been told many reason for this but i've still to see any real facts. I searched the internet and couldn't see anything so i was wondering why this was the case?

I'm not against the US army or Americans in general.

Thanks.


Think about what has been happening in North Korea. Now think of Vietnam when America left the north took the whole country over. That is what would happen in South Korea if US Army was to leave.
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darkhorse_NZ



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Why is the US army still in Korea? Reply with quote

Areut wrote:
Morton wrote:
I've been told many reason for this but i've still to see any real facts. I searched the internet and couldn't see anything so i was wondering why this was the case?

I'm not against the US army or Americans in general.

Thanks.


Think about what has been happening in North Korea. Now think of Vietnam when America left the north took the whole country over. That is what would happen in South Korea if US Army was to leave.


hey areut,

what's your thoughts on North vs South if the US Army left. Do you think the North would win? I know they have like a 2 million man army but their equipment's all outdated Soviet muck isn't it? And we all know how that equipment and that strategy performed against modern warfare in Iraq. Twice.

Sure the South would be ooutnumbered but it's economy is light years ahead of the North which basically counts for everything if they can hold them on the border.

i'm guessing if the North crossed over they'd run out of petrol at Uijongbu, everybody would get out of there tanks and started looting some shops.
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Morton



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it such a bad thing if Korea reunifies?

Vietnam don't seem that much of a threat.
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darkhorse_NZ



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morton wrote:
Is it such a bad thing if Korea reunifies?

Vietnam don't seem that much of a threat.


i reckon the South should have reunified with the North. By that I mean invade and topple that eraserhead fool in Pyongyang and liberate their so-called 'brothers' across the border. Of course, now the North has the nuke that can't happen and now that the North is so far behind economically reunification would bankrupt South Korean coffers. Plus, the Chinese would have something to say aswell.
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seoulsucker



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Disclaimer: This is just an average American 30 year old's response. I follow politics, policy, and international affairs very casually, so if you feel the need to pick apart this post go ahead. I'm no expert, nor do I pretend to be one.

1.) Regardless of what many people may think, US soldiers are probably more welcome here than in 90% of the other countries they're stationed in. I think that's a pretty big factor. We've dug ourselves in pretty good here, and it would probably cost more to leave than it would to stay for the next 20 years.

2.) North Korea, for all it's posturing and pouting, still does represent a fairly significant regional threat, especially to our good buddies over in Japan who haven't had the ability to strike outside their own borders for a while. We're here to provide support for them as much as we are the RoK stars.

3.) Sticking around as a reminder to China...they may be growing fast on their house-of-cards economy, but having us next door is a good reminder of who is still in charge for the time being.

Anyway, a casual response to a fairly serious question. You might get more of what you're looking for over in the CE forum.
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the eye



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um, the reason the US military is still here is that they are still technically AT WAR with the north.

They've signed an armistice, but that's it.

In the years since the armistice was signed, the north has abducted other nationals, enganged in sea attacks on south korean vessels, dug tunnels under the border, shot at airplanes and launched missiles.


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dmbfan



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've been told many reason for this but i've still to see any real facts. I searched the internet and couldn't see anything so i was wondering why this was the case?



Think of it this way...why does N.K. have such a strong presence on the other side of the boarder?


I feel that N.K. would definatley steam roll the S.K. forces, should the U.S. leave. S.K. is outmanned and out gunned (their weapons are not exactly cutting edge either). They still don't have (after 50 years) their shite together, in terms of logistics, intelligence and communications. They would be a mess.

S.K. would running for the hills, swimming to Cheju do.........then they could be like Taiwan.

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JZer



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i reckon the South should have reunified with the North. By that I mean invade and topple that eraserhead fool in Pyongyang and liberate their so-called 'brothers' across the border.


This will not happen any time soon. Even if Kim Jong Il handed North Korea to South Korea tomorrow it might be 10 years before Korea unifies. I have read that Korea will probably not unify immediately even if given the opportunity. Unifying a country as poor as North Korea will cause many problems therefore North Korea must be built up slowly over time before Korea can reunite.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To save South Korea from getting destroyed again by the wicked Stalinistic witch of the North.
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darkhorse_NZ



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
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i reckon the South should have reunified with the North. By that I mean invade and topple that eraserhead fool in Pyongyang and liberate their so-called 'brothers' across the border.


This will not happen any time soon. Even if Kim Jong Il handed North Korea to South Korea tomorrow it might be 10 years before Korea unifies. I have read that Korea will probably not unify immediately even if given the opportunity. Unifying a country as poor as North Korea will cause many problems therefore North Korea must be built up slowly overtime before Korea can reunite.



I'm with you on that one. Look at East Germany, ten years since reunification and they're still pretty backwards. Plus, East germany wasn't as far behind the West as North Korea is to the South.
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Morton



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies.

I'm thinking along the lines: if reunification ever did happen then the South would take a severe knocking. An example is the German economy after they reunified.

Why then do the Koreans have a negative attitude toward foreigners?

Are they perhaps a little too big for their boots?

Too much too soon?

Or maybe foreigners do themselves no favours when they are over here.
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Morton



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just noticed my German analogy was usurped by the NZ poster. Kudos on the hasty reply. Very Happy
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morton wrote:
Is it such a bad thing if Korea reunifies?

Vietnam don't seem that much of a threat.


Yeah, but the North Vietnamese leaders weren't batshit insane, as the leaders of North Korea are. No matter what you think of their politics, the Vietcong had something they were passionate about, and were fighting for. North Korea, no matter how much they would tout fighting to "reunify the Korean people," it would be all about making Mr. Kim more powerful and having a whole new population to subjugate and abuse.
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