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shifdog



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: I give up Reply with quote

I've spent over 1 month looking for a job here. I interviewed for about 5 jobs, and none of them offered pension/medical. Other job offers I get are illegal or not what I want, i.e., location, hours, etc.

I guess it's all luck of the draw and how persistent you are. Oh well, at least I don't have to live here for the rest of my life.

Has anyone had the same experience job hunting?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: I give up Reply with quote

shifdog wrote:
I've spent over 1 month looking for a job here. I interviewed for about 5 jobs, and none of them offered pension/medical. Other job offers I get are illegal or not what I want, i.e., location, hours, etc.

I guess it's all luck of the draw and how persistent you are. Oh well, at least I don't have to live here for the rest of my life.

Has anyone had the same experience job hunting?


Nope. It's all about the connections... time to start networking and stay away from hakwon chains.
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horang



Joined: 16 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: I give up Reply with quote

shifdog wrote:
I've spent over 1 month looking for a job here. I interviewed for about 5 jobs, and none of them offered pension/medical. Other job offers I get are illegal or not what I want, i.e., location, hours, etc.

I guess it's all luck of the draw and how persistent you are. Oh well, at least I don't have to live here for the rest of my life.

Has anyone had the same experience job hunting?


It's obvious that Korea does not want you. Good bye!
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like you simply need some patience, really. the bad jobs are a dime a dozen, easy come easy go.

the good ones are maybe 1 every 10 days or so, especially now in the middle of the term, summer vaca upon us

check out your resume with friends or on the websites where people post theirs and see how yours compares

the better employers seek people 2-3 months ahead of time - did anyone tell you that? it takes time and effort to find the good one, hang in there.

also with summer upon us, you can surely find a summer camp. just don't apply until the week of the camps, that's when they pay the most as the students are coming and ohmygod we don't have enough foreign teachers - watch your pay jump thru the roof - really - is amazing and very gratifying Very Happy

then while doing a camp you can keep looking - there will be a lot of jobs for september

good luck, pm me if you like, can offer more tips

moosehead
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shifdog



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: I give up Reply with quote

horang wrote:


It's obvious that Korea does not want you. Good bye!


Yes I'm so heartbroken that I'm not wanted by a 3rd world country.

It's funny that all the schools that were not offering pension/medical had more than one FT working there. As long as FT's allow Koreans to cornhole them, then it'll happen to others.

ttom I agree it's all about the connections. Unfortunately I haven't spent enough time in Korea to establish those.

I appreciate the encouragement, but I think my time in Asia has come to an end. Between the 4+ years in Japan and 1 year in Korea, I'm done. It's better to leave with good memories than become bitter about it all.
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: I give up Reply with quote

shifdog wrote:
horang wrote:


It's obvious that Korea does not want you. Good bye!


Yes I'm so heartbroken that I'm not wanted by a 3rd world country.

It's funny that all the schools that were not offering pension/medical had more than one FT working there. As long as FT's allow Koreans to cornhole them, then it'll happen to others.

ttom I agree it's all about the connections. Unfortunately I haven't spent enough time in Korea to establish those.

I appreciate the encouragement, but I think my time in Asia has come to an end. Between the 4+ years in Japan and 1 year in Korea, I'm done. It's better to leave with good memories than become bitter about it all.


3rd world country? You obviously either have no clue what this term means or you've been nowhere. Just leave. If you can't find a job in 5 weeks you must have issues.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: I give up Reply with quote

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3rd world country? You obviously either have no clue what this term means or you've been nowhere. Just leave. If you can't find a job in 5 weeks you must have issues.


i agree and am sorry i took the time to reply to someone who obviously just wants to whine.

moosehead
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shifdog



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: I give up Reply with quote

Tokki1 wrote:

3rd world country? You obviously either have no clue what this term means or you've been nowhere. Just leave. If you can't find a job in 5 weeks you must have issues.


Okay you got me there. It's not a third world country, but it's definitely not a first world country because of:

- politics
- lack of enforcement of laws
- attitudes toward foreigners
- chaebols
- human trafficking

The list goes on and on.
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jay-shi



Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: On tour

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: I give up Reply with quote

shifdog wrote:
Tokki1 wrote:

3rd world country? You obviously either have no clue what this term means or you've been nowhere. Just leave. If you can't find a job in 5 weeks you must have issues.


Okay you got me there. It's not a third world country, but it's definitely not a first world country because of:

- politics
- lack of enforcement of laws
- attitudes toward foreigners
- chaebols
- human trafficking

The list goes on and on.


Are you retarded?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World
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shifdog



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: I give up Reply with quote

jay-shi wrote:


Are you retarded?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World


Please do more reading. Remember wikipedia can be a useful resource, but it's not the end all. You should ask yourself the same question. Are you one of those teachers not receiving pension or medical? So you are saying these things do not occur in this country?

Thanks to all for the PM, but this 1st world reject is leaving the quasi 1st world.
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insam



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moosehead is right, patience can not be stressed enough. i usually find only 5 or 6 jobs per month that i'm remotely interested in. out of those 5 or 6, let's say 4 are genuinely interested in me. out of the 4, maybe 1 or 2 have a strong and transparent correlation between the advertisement and the contract. then i'm left with only one or two per month to accept or decline. so far i have turned down every contract i was offered (these are decent contracts, ones that made it through my initital screening), but i've only been looking for four or five weeks. for some jobs i invest 5-10 hours in the interviewing and testing process. i'm scheduled for a 6 hour series of written exams this week. there may be 10 phone and email exchanges for a given job. it is a long and time-consuming process for most quality jobs. very few quality positions are avilable simply based on your 'qualifications' and experience. many want you to demonstrate it. another thing: most quality jobs look for candidates weeks or months in advance. if a position is open and they want to fill it ASAP or next week etc then I don't even consider it.

last time i went to korea i gave myself about 6 months. if you are patient and stick to your guns in negotiation, then you will be successful. i do not look at just one aspect (e.g. medical/pension). many quality high-paying hourly jobs will not offer everything. different emphases for different people... if i do not feel 95% certain about a job, i decline it; therefore, i decline some jobs that may be excellent. i realize 100% satisfaction is unrealistic, but that's what i aim for. no problem, move along cautiously and patiently, and eventually things will fall into place. people who want a job within a few weeks of searching will often find themselves disappointed. you may get lucky, but you may not. there will be those who say 'sure, this is all great but most people can't wait months to find a job.' well, that may be true, but don't complain when you get stuck in a crap institution.
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you retarded?


r u saying korea doesnt have these problems?

if u are, they u are the one who is retarded im affraid
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: I give up Reply with quote

shifdog wrote:
I've spent over 1 month looking for a job here. I interviewed for about 5 jobs, and none of them offered pension/medical. Other job offers I get are illegal or not what I want, i.e., location, hours, etc.

I guess it's all luck of the draw and how persistent you are. Oh well, at least I don't have to live here for the rest of my life.

Has anyone had the same experience job hunting?


Yeah, it happens. You need to stay away from scummy recruiters, too.
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insam



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

willneverteachagain wrote:
Quote:
Are you retarded?


r u saying korea doesnt have these problems?

if u are, they u are the one who is retarded im affraid


i can't speak for the poster, but korea has far fewer 'problems' than many other so-called industrialized societies. certainly the united states culture is backwards compared to that of korea. don't just compare new york or san francisco with seoul. look at the whole picture. every place on earth has problems, except maybe luxembourg and belgium. Smile
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ella



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It took me several months to find my job. Be persistent and be picky, it's worth it. Best of luck.
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