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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:30 am    Post subject: 4.4.4. Reply with quote

What movie is this? Any reviews? Anyone know about it?
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

444 is the Korean title for the film "Captivity".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captivity_%28film%29
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/captivity/
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dang...a mixture of hostel and saw..... Shocked

I am going to see this movie.
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a bit worried about the director being Roland Joff�, who began his career with the great The Killing Fields and The Mission, and then followed it up with the disasterous Super Mario Brothers and The Scarlet Letter.
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwemory wrote:
I'm a bit worried about the director being Roland Joff�, who began his career with the great The Killing Fields and The Mission, and then followed it up with the disasterous Super Mario Brothers and The Scarlet Letter.


haha. let's hope he does a bit better. This is going to be my weekend outting.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwemory wrote:
I'm a bit worried about the director being Roland Joff�, who began his career with the great The Killing Fields and The Mission, and then followed it up with the disasterous Super Mario Brothers and The Scarlet Letter.


Good god. I never realized the director of The Killing Fields/The Mission stooped that low.
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davai!



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked on the set in Moscow (Summer 2005) but I will refrain from a review as I have only seen it via a cheap pirate DVD dubbed into Russian. I actually got in the film as a NY cop, which was fun. Look for me about 11 min. from the start for about 3 seconds....

Shooting it in Moscow was done as it was Russian financed (and you should have seen the "Producer" types coming in to the set in their G Wagens!) and they were trying to take advantage of cheap labor, etc. But the inevitable red tape and general Do-anything-in-Russia-BS cost them a few extra millions.

Captivity has been considered a make-or-break for Joffe's career. It will be interesting to see the effect.

If anyone has any specific ??? let me know.
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julian_w



Joined: 08 Sep 2003
Location: Somewhere beyond Middle Peak Hotel, north of Middle Earth, and well away from the Middle of the Road

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: Joss's link... Reply with quote

* * * * *

From the creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, and Firefly/Serenity...

Joss Wheadon's take on '4.4.4.' ('Captivity')

* * * * *

... This is strange, to me, cos just today someone sent me a link to that 'Flixation' site I hadn't heard of before, so I was thinking about favourite movies, and Aliens and Serenity versus easy all-too-easy ultra-violence like A Clockwork Orange... and yeah yeah I know the whole idea of the director 'commenting on violence by making a movie about it doesn't endorse it' angle... but dah... all is linked. All are responsible for each other.

I know the risk of the 'any publicity is good publicity' truism, and I know one shouldn't feed the trolls... And I know not every artist should have to create works of blissfully vacuous beauty - fears are valid topics for artistic expression too, as much as desire and the rest - but if someone is blessed with all of the talent, finance and imagination for creating a full length movie for the sake of either 'art' or 'entertainment', can they not also stop and think ... I mean like use their wonderful imaginations for half a minute... and imagine the impact the images will have ... you know, in the sense of the 'bigger picture.' I mean, does the director not have any sisters or something?

I think we'll have to use this whole discussion topic in class. And in the bar...
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holiday72



Joined: 05 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: awful Reply with quote

This movie is awful, saw it yesterday.
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cubanlord



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i saw it today. The plot was different, but predictable. on a scale of 1 through 10 (10 being best), I say I give this a 3
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Beageal



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Location: Itaewon, like all the rest of us.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it called 4.4.4. in Korea? Is 444 the special phone number for when you're being held captive?
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beageal wrote:
Why is it called 4.4.4. in Korea? Is 444 the special phone number for when you're being held captive?


there really was no reference to the numbers in the movie. The only thing I can think of is that Koreans are afraid of the number '4'. Have you ever ridden in an elevator? You'll see floor 1, floor 2, floor 3, floor 'f'. They don't like the number 4.

So, my guess is that the original name 'Captivity' did not fair well when translated, so, to target more of an audience, they changed it to '4.4.4.'. Kind of like 6.6.6. in western culture.
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Beageal



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a fear of '4' that makes them use 'F' on elevators? That's crazy. The sensible thing to do would be to just deny the existence of a fourth floor. Just skip it, go straight to 5.
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So to be really scary shouldn't the title have been '4.4.4.4'?

Then it would be like 4 to the 4th power.
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just alittlecrazy



Joined: 30 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beageal wrote:
Why is it called 4.4.4. in Korea? Is 444 the special phone number for when you're being held captive?


In Korea, number '4' is pronounced as sa (사 四) and is homonymous with 'death (사 死)'. Some, but not all, Korean buildings have the fourth floor written as 'F' floor. [1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstition
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