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Emily3373
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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 Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: LCI Kids Club in Saha, Busan |
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My partner and I just got offered a position from the LCI Kids Club or LCI Academy in Saha, Busan. It is called the Saha Kids Club. We were wondering if anyone knows anything about this school in particular. We've seen some negative posts about the LCI Kids Club, in general, but we were wondering if this was the case with ALL of the schools. If anyone knows anything, we would greatly appreciate any advice!
Thank you!
Emily |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: LCI Kids Club in Saha, Busan |
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| Emily3373 wrote: |
My partner and I just got offered a position from the LCI Kids Club or LCI Academy in Saha, Busan. It is called the Saha Kids Club. We were wondering if anyone knows anything about this school in particular. We've seen some negative posts about the LCI Kids Club, in general, but we were wondering if this was the case with ALL of the schools. If anyone knows anything, we would greatly appreciate any advice!
Thank you!
Emily |
Most hakwon chains (this one included) have earned their bad reputations over many years of continuous bad management, repeated illegal practices and generally cheating the foreign staff out of pay and benefits.
1st - READ the contract over very carefully. If that doesn't scare you away then...
The best you can do is minimize the risk by talking to MORE THAN ONE of the foreign staff and ask POINTED AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS (*when the boss is NOT listening over their shoulder). Don't accept non-specific answers and broad generalizations.
No foreign staff references to talk to = walk away now.
Accept NO EXCUSES for any reason.
The hard questions to ask AND get acceptable answers to ARE:
-What are the hours? (start time / stop time / breaks).
-How many classes per day, week, month? NOT hour many hours per month. 30 classroom hours can mean anything from 1350 -1800 minutes per week standing in front of the class. The difference can be up to 7.5 HOURS in front of the class EACH WEEK.
-Do they ALWAYS pay on time? (no=red flag 1)
-Do they pay at the end of your month or do they have a hold back period (5-10 days after your month end) to prevent runners? (no=red flag 2)
-Do they really pay overtime or avoid it with creative book keeping? (no=red flag 3)
-Do you get credit for classes on the national holidays or do you get the day off but still have to work your 120 hours before you get overtime? (no=red flag 4)
-Do they have national medical (with the little booklet)? (no=red flag 5)
-Do they pay into pension? (no=red flag 6) These two are legal requirements (not optional) and are usually NOT complied with (to your detriment).
-What about the holidays? 10 or more WORKING days? (legal requirement here) (no=red flag 7)
-When and how do you get your holidays?
-What extra stuff do you really have to do - mentioned or not in the contract.
-Then consider the quality of life issues - things that are important to you that aren't mentioned here (housing, furnishings, THE BATHROOM, access to recreational facilities, shopping, banking).
Do they take additional deposits in addition to the delay in payday? (yes=red flag Cool
I would also like to mention for I would also like to mention for comparison:
My co-worker who is a green as grass, fresh of the boat newbie gets a base salary of 2.1 mil per month for 22 classes of 40 minutes each.
She gets 20k won for each 40 minute class over 22 per week and works from 8:30-4:30 each day. She usually averages 26 classes per week and her salary works out to about 2.5 mil per month.
She also gets (as required by law and ignored by most hakwons) NHIC medical, pension, severance, non-shared housing, airfare and 4 weeks annual PAID vacation.
Do NOT be in a rush to sign anything. There is NO rush or urgency in spite of what your recruiter may tell you.
Take your time. The job (or more likely a better one) will still be there next week and probably next month too.
There are 30,000 openings in Korea each year and only about 25,000 applicants to fill those jobs each year.
I hope that has been of some help. |
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kat2
Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know about the school specifically, but Saha-gu is way out there. There won't be many familiar comforts. If you want a "real" koean experience, its a good place to be. If you want to be at the bar meeting lots of other foreigners every night and eating western food, not a good place to be. |
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