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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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cranura

Joined: 07 Mar 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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sounds akin to either rudolf steiner or maria montessori -- my kids were raised under the montessori model and have done very well in life
would probably be a wonderful school providing the space and staff are knowledgeable and the kids are controllable |
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ilovebdt

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Location: Nr Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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How willl they give grades and tests? You know how keen Korean parents are on grades and tests.
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buffygrrl1
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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They don't they follow that plan and it seems to work for them. The kids are all 5 years old so I don't know how you can test them anyway? |
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Canadian Club
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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It does sound a bit like Montesori... I went to a Montessori school when I was a kid and loved it. |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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It's a bit like The Natural Method |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Montessori can be a very good learning environment as long as you have hamoney between teachers and administration.
I teach in a montessori hagwon of traditional folk art style decorated with alot of nature themed art and has a yard, trees, garden, and grass surrounding it. The school is the most expensive in my local area and emphasizes nature, science, math, and natural environment with field trips once every 2 weeks to explore nature through an outdoor walk or something in the community like a visit to a fire station or museum. The curriculum is rigorous, but lacks discilpline and teaching support. When I ask for something, they just beat around the bush and make it an uncomfortable situation for me on purpose. This montessori thing here is just a facade over evil doings, but works in adding value to the school from a business perspective.
If it were not for the director and vice-director not liking me since day 1 and playing a favorites game with a couple other FT's, I would love teaching at this school. I have observed 2 other FT's who are not liked since day 1 too. Some FT's do enjoy it here very much and stay 2 or 3 years. The gyopo teacher is most favorited alone with the hippie backpacker dude coming in next. While it pays only 2 m for 30 teaching hours a week, it is an excellent work environment if you're liked or favorited by the vice director and director. I have known since day 1, I am not liked, but myself and the hagwon just keeps me for money reasons. I am very disappointed that they would hire me and bring me half way across the world just to disappoint me with an uncomfortable situation. What were they thinking? |
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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: |
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sounds good to me. I found it quite interesting so I signed with then because I think I will learn a lot from the school and won't absolutely hate it. |
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Jizzo T. Clown

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Location: at my wit's end
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be very interested to know how things go at this school. I have a hard time seeing how a hogwan is going to implement this methodology, especially when most Koreans are so results-oriented. Granted the "fun and games" part is part of every hagwon, this seems too progressive for society here...but I've been wrong before. |
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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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in my interview they said its very different and my TESOL will not help me much in this type of environment. They have a playground for the kids, sicence, math and art corners. They made it to be more of an American like pre-school. |
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insam
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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sojourner1 wrote: |
I am very disappointed that they would hire me and bring me half way across the world just to disappoint me with an uncomfortable situation. What were they thinking? |
I hear where you're coming from, but often it is not intentional. It can be something very specific, even unconscious. Intuition e.g. love/hate at first sight is totally natural. Of course, it sounds like they are not handling it in a professional way. On the other hand, it could be intentional and strategic. That aspect of some Korean business practices is terribly unnerving for most reasonable people. It happens with the Korean staff as well ('in' group and 'out' group). I suppose it helps establish loyalties and checks and balances (e.g. watchful eyes and attentive ears) and a source of valuable information for management etc. It also can help to motivate people and stimulate competition (some would find it alienating). I experienced it as a favorite; I was given special treatment because I went along with the system (after all, when in Rome....). However, I grew weary and toward the end of my two year contract ended up pretty much not caring where I stood in the concentric circles. Though frustrating, it is an interesting ecuational and cultural experience. I honestly don't mind too much; it's sort of fascinating if you look at it as a topic of inquiry/study rather than as a problem. You seem to have a balanced perspective despite your frustrations, which is nice to see. Sounds like the physical environment of your school is a source of comfort. |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Buffygirl: How much research did you do about this? Where is the school located? Is it an English only kindergarten or a Korean kindergarten that wants a white face? You need to know this because if it's the latter then it's illegal.
I have a New Zealand friend that came and took a job at a school like this. She's in hell.
It's a kindergarten that uses Montessori (sp?) method. It's a Korean kindergarten and no-one (no coworkers) speak English. They put her in a room with 5 year olds and expect English magic. It's an illegal job and she's trying desperately to get out of it.
I hope you did your research. |
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