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Rock
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: Korea Leading the Way? |
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Determining English ability nationwise, who's leading amongst the Asian countries of Japan, Taiwan, and Korea, and how's this determined?
I once read in the Korea Herald that Korea'd led the way. |
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Tokki1

Joined: 14 May 2007 Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: |
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As far as English comprehension/speaking/etc... goes, Korea is by far the leader of the three aforementioned countries. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:57 am Post subject: |
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Tokki1 wrote: |
As far as English comprehension/speaking/etc... goes, Korea is by far the leader of the three aforementioned countries. |
Not by the last bunch of stats in the media. Korea placed dead last among the OECD countries. |
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Treefarmer

Joined: 29 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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it's probably based on the best of the best, if korea really is leading the way then jesus christ...
but from those countries i've only been to korea and japan, and japanese seemed better at english in terms of people who worked in hotels and shops, but i live in korea so it's not really a fair comparison |
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Tokki1

Joined: 14 May 2007 Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: |
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You must be joking. I've had more trouble communicating in Japan and Taiwan than in Korea (in English). But I may be biased because I speak intermediate Korean. It's hard to be objective when you have kimchi on the brain.  |
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't Korea something like 127th in English ability?
Someone here must have the numbers.... Korea is definitely one of the worst. |
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Tokki1

Joined: 14 May 2007 Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Try to take a taxi in Taiwan or Japan. It's like smashing your head against a wall. I'm giving my thumbs up to the ajoshis. |
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DCJames

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Korea is way better than Taiwan and Japan.
Most people under the age of 30 can speak some English here. |
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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"According to a report released in 2003 by the Political and Economic Risk Consultancy in Hong Kong, which provides information on the management environment in East Asia, Korea ranked the lowest among 12 Asian countries when it comes to communication in English. From 2004 to 2005, the TOEFL scores of Korean applicants ranked 93rd among 147 nations. And last September, when a speaking section replaced the grammar component in the TOEFL exams, Korea�s rank dropped to 111th. In the speaking section, Korea ranked almost rock bottom, at 134th."
There you go. As I suspected, Korea just sucks. (at English) |
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Tokki1

Joined: 14 May 2007 Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Goes to show you how meaningful statistics really are in the context of real life. |
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Saxiif

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Tokki1 wrote: |
Goes to show you how meaningful statistics really are in the context of real life. |
Exactly, its obvious that anyone whose been to those countries that Korean are clearly better at English (on average) than Japan, China or Taiwan. In Japan the only person I could find who spoke English decently enough to give me some help was Korean  |
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zappadelta

Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Where's Real Reality? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:34 am Post subject: |
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tokki, exp;ain something to me. Why do people put numbers after their nicks? Your handle would be much neater without the 1 |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Tokki1 wrote: |
You must be joking. I've had more trouble communicating in Japan and Taiwan than in Korea (in English). |
I've been to Japan dozens of times not once have I had problems communicating. Even if they can't speak English, they understand what I'm saying and have helped me out.
Just in the last year alone, I've had more problems communicating with Koreans than in ALL my time in Japan combined. And that includes speaking Korean to them. They make very little effort to understand what you're trying to say, and it bugs the shit out of me. |
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insam
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:43 am Post subject: |
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if you are referring to speaking ability by second language learners (not people brought up learning english), korea is and will always be the leader in the context of the three countries mentioned (assuming each remain interested in promoting english language learning). it is simply a linguistic reality. both taiwanese and japanese will initially (sometimes indefinitely) struggle with the pronunciation more than koreans. that said, if you start teaching kids from infancy, then it wouldn't matter where you are from. |
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