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[Tony_Balony]

Killing Highlights Risk of Selling Marijuana, Even Legally

[twg]

Famous drug user
Sleazy!

[jkelly80]

[khyber]

[mindmetoo]

Anything banned has a sleezy culture attached to it. Whiskey used to have a pretty sleezy culture during prohibition. But now it's a high class product (well, some are). Even hamburger used to have a sleezy rep until White Castle came along and corporations made it an all American product.

[thepeel]

I like pot. I like mush even more.

I am a very docile dude. Very. And when I smoke pot or eat mush, I get even more docile. But when I drink, I do get a tad more aggressive. I can only imagine that an individual who is aggressive to begin with would be more likely to cause problems while drunk.

When I get high I watch Star Wars and eat chips. That isn't sleazy.

[endo]

Is marijuana culture sleazy?

Only when it is involved with the black market. And remeber marijuana use is still a federal crime so it is not legal in Nevada.


The illegality of pot creates the majority of the negative images towards the drug.

Prohibition = black market = absense of the rule of law = chaos


Legakize weed and allow individuals to grow their own (about 3 plants), and if they choose to grow more, make them obtain a permit and tax the supplier and buyers.

[Satori]

Is the marijuana culture fundamentally a sleazy culture? Absolutely not. Is the marijuana market sleazy, yes, and only because pot is illegal.

The "marijuana culture" as a concept has to be a definition of all the things people do while stoned, and the types of gatherings and and events associated with this, and the types of philosophy and art associated with this. Pot is clearly a very wholesome and benign drug with very positive effects. Check out an outdoor music concert where most people are stoned and not drunk, you will see a bunch of laid back people. With alcohol it's a very different picture. Pot promotes peace, deep thought, and philosophical discussion, and some great art and music. No contest between pot and alcohol.

Pot is only illegal because the government doesn't want people to be able to make money off something that is hard to tax. It's not about health of the effect of the drug on society. The govt could give a damn about that. If it were about health and safety alcohol would be banned a long time ago. It's just about money. But ironically making pot legal would totally pull the guts out of the market, the price would come way down, it would no longer be a profitable business, and criminals would look elsewhere for their activities. It's so easy to grow, people would grow their own, give freely to friends, and the money and sleaze would just disappear. But governments have a vested interest in keeping it illegal, and it's not out of any concern with the health and welfare of the population.

[endo]

Pots not really that easy to grow man.

It has a long growing period and it takes a lot of work. I've never grown, but I've had friends who have and it was quite a task.



Like I said you can get a few suppliers who would require a licence, and then sell the weed at various coffee shops like in Amsterdam.

[tiger fancini]

The problem is, however cool you and your friends might be, the fact remains that if you want to smoke weed, you usually have to deal with some pretty sleazy people, or people who have links to some pretty sleazy people. Now, 9 times out of 10, these sleazy people are also smokers, yet remain sleazy/seedy/dodgy/whatever. If weed were legal, these bad dudes would still smoke. I don't think weed makes people nice and friendly, and I don't think it makes them dodgy fucks either. People are people, and I don't think that weed makes that much of a difference to who you inherently are.

[Tony_Balony]

There's plenty or arguments on prohibition. One was cannabis is "bad" because of the company it keeps or causes and the idea was to change it's legal status so that it wouldn't habitate the dark underworld of human behavior.

These medical dispensaries occupy a twilight zone of legality but none the less it gets of bit of legal sunshine. However, the people that visit these dispensaries are pretty dirt-baggy. So much in fact that even San Franciscans don't want them around expensive property or retail shopping areas.

I found the development disheartening. The anti prohibitionists trot out the usual pot smoking crowd, Carl Sagan, Bill Clinton and Jesus but at the Green Cross office, its just a collection of low lifes.

[boyne11]

[Bibbitybop]

A few years ago, Dateline or one of the other hour-long news shows in the US did a story about herb in the USA and The Netherlands. 16% of Dutch youth had tried it. 60% of US youth had tried it.

Why? One reason is the outlaw, rebellious culture in the USA. Being illegal makes it "cool." Snoop Dogg refers to it on the TV or radio, then a government or Ad Council commercial follows it trying to scare people from doing it. Who are you going to believe? The government or Snoop? Snoop has never lied to me. I can't say the same for the government. Remember the DARE program? Utter BS, and it didn't work.

Legalize it, tax it, profit off of it and fight meth instead.

[sojourner1]

The dam alcohol is what's bad drug use and abuse, not marijuana. Which one gives you a bad hangover? Which one causes many job losses and divorces? Which one costs more? Booze.

The fact that marijuana was not socially accepted by the US traditionally gives it and the people who smoke it, a sleazy reputation. There is a documentary called, "The history of marijuana", if anyone wants to know why it's illegal. You can get it through downloading the torrent. It pretty much goes that marijuana was demonized by the US government in the early 20th century due to it being associated with being a Mexican thing. While America was being super power of the world throughout the 20th century, it persuaded most nations that marijuana is bad and it must be illegal. As we all know, prohibition of alcohol happened too, but become legal again since Americans took a stand telling the US government that there is no stopping them from boozing.

I still can't hardly believe that Korea only recreates with alcohol (no other drugs), much less, the lowest quality such as soju. That is one boring party scene. Don't come to Korea for marijuana culture or to savor the best booze though you can get good booze like cognac if you're willing to pay very high prices. If you enjoy other things other than yucky alcohol, you have foregone these things to live in Korea which is an opportunity cost just as missing your relatives and old friends are.

[4 months left]

Unfortunately the majority of people in the world are not very bright - just look how many people have a religion. Alcohol is a much, much, much worse drug than weed.

Who would you rather run into a drunk ajoshi or a stoned ajoshi?

Here's an article from the Toronto Star I was reading today:

.......one Montreal cop who asked not to be identified said some officers can spend an entire career on the force without ever arresting the people they catch smoking a joint.

"I'd rather stop someone breaking into a house or stealing a car," he said.

He said some officers might lay charges in conjunction with an unrelated offence to increase the likelihood of a criminal conviction � for instance, if they detect pot during a domestic-abuse investigation.

One drug-policy expert points out that alcohol consumption and cigarette-smoking rates have plummeted since the 1970s, while pot use has risen.

Tighter controls and public awareness of the dangers associated with booze and cigarettes have succeeded where prohibition failed, said Eugene Oscapella, a lawyer and criminology professor at the University of Ottawa.

"Going into the 21st century, we should know better than to bludgeon the use of this drug with criminal law," he said. "It doesn't work, hasn't worked, there's no prospect that it ever will work. Yet we continue to do it."

Pot busts bounce back
http://www.thestar.com/article/233760