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lodestoned



Joined: 17 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Tax refund for Americans???? Some details please... Reply with quote

I heard from a friend and I saw a previous post on Dave's to the effect that Americans can somehow get their taxes refunded. The post mentioned dates but I wasn't clear. I have been here since July 22 2006 and will leave July 25 2007. Can I take advantage of this? A little extra cash would be great traveling..... Please help if you know anything.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You first sent in form 8820 available on the IRS website, then give the copy of the letter returned to you to your school. When you file taxes, you should really get a tax agent's help, use software like turbo tax or work with someone experienced. As long as you live out of the US for 330 days, I think, you are exempt from paying taxes for income up to 85,000 USD. This applies for your first 2 years abroad.
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peacemaker



Joined: 19 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Americans and Canadians, their first two years in Korea, are exempt from paying Korean income taxes (ask your school, they should know what you have to do).

As far as I know, for Americans, income earned outside the US is non-taxable for as long as you are eligible for the foreign income exclusion. I don't think there is a two year limit on that. The foreign income exclusion is fairly confusing to explain. Check out www.irs.gov and search for "foreign income exclusion" or do a search on these boards as some other people have explained it fairly well in other threads.

Basically, all I had to do in April was fill out a form (not sure about the number) requesting a six-month filing extension so that I could qualify for the 330-day physical prensence test (I am in Korea from Sept. 2006-Sept. 2007).

Again, this is missing a lot of the relevant details, so check out the IRS website.
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Snowkr



Joined: 03 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to pay in BIG TIME... not for U.S. income tax but for U.S. Social security. I paid over $3,000 USD for my one year of work in Korea.
I was told this was because I didn't pay into Korea's soc. security (aka pension, I believe).

Whatever you do, make sure you have a pension plan. I got no money back for taxes and basically paid my government to work in Korea.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowkr wrote:
I had to pay in BIG TIME... not for U.S. income tax but for U.S. Social security. I paid over $3,000 USD for my one year of work in Korea.
I was told this was because I didn't pay into Korea's soc. security (aka pension, I believe).

Whatever you do, make sure you have a pension plan. I got no money back for taxes and basically paid my government to work in Korea.


I think paying into a pension is required for all legal E-2 jobs......

I'm no expert on that, though.

In the US, if you are here on an E-2 visa, you are a legal resident of the USA and should not be paying Korean taxes. It's the US that exempts you for 2 years. I'm almost sure of this. Can someone more knowledgable back this info up?
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Information... Reply with quote

If you want to find out some of the specifics related to taxes and other issues, go to the link below for appropriate links to find what you are looking for...

http://forum.koredinco.com/viewtopic.php?t=7

I think this will give you a good starting point...
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowkr wrote:
I had to pay in BIG TIME... not for U.S. income tax but for U.S. Social security. I paid over $3,000 USD for my one year of work in Korea.
I was told this was because I didn't pay into Korea's soc. security (aka pension, I believe).

Whatever you do, make sure you have a pension plan. I got no money back for taxes and basically paid my government to work in Korea.


I haven't researched social security but why weren't you able to claim
the exclusion?
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tax break that allows you to not pay Korean taxes for two years is part of the EPIK contract. I'm not sure if other public school teachers can get it or not. It states in the EPIK contract that it is available to any nationality except Canadian. However, if you don't qualify for this tax break you may be able to get pack almost all of your taxes paid in your regular Korean tax return. I saw this in a post but don't any details.

The following thread explains the tax exclusion in more detail. Remember you can file an amended return if you didn't get the break you deserve.
Some people can do their own taxes and some can't. If you use a preparer you can print out this thread to show to them and help you decide if they are a good preparer or a bad preparer.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=87567&highlight=tax+exclusion
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Colorado



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Tax refund for Americans???? Some details please... Reply with quote

lodestoned wrote:
I heard from a friend and I saw a previous post on Dave's to the effect that Americans can somehow get their taxes refunded. The post mentioned dates but I wasn't clear. I have been here since July 22 2006 and will leave July 25 2007. Can I take advantage of this? A little extra cash would be great traveling..... Please help if you know anything.


Anyone who pays taxes can file a tax return. Your school office should be able to help you file a Korean Tax Return on the taxes you paid. Check with your school or call the tax office.
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prettyinscarlet777



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: masan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When do you file a Korean tax return? How do you do it? thanx
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luvnpeas



Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's an EPIK thing. I think it has to do with agreements between the countries. That's why Canadians are excluded: it's not because EPIK arbitrarily hates Canadians, but because the countries don't have an agreement.

The IRS can be pretty damn stupid. I just got their response from my form: they said I need to send them a statement stating I am US resident for tax purposes. 1) Isn't that what their form, which I signed, says? 2) How would I find out if I am US resident for tax purposes, other than by asking....the IRS?
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this would make a good sticky - i just learned of it after my first 1 1/2 yrs in korea and as a result was only excempt for 6 months - was sweet, tho, not having to pay taxes those 6 months

then i left korea for a few months - came back - so my question is - is this like a ONE - TIME exemption - the 2 years? as in forever - i was away for several months and came back - my school is taking taxes out but i haven't asked about the exemption

fyi, the exemption is with several countries, it has to do with some kind of agreement between each country and korea; i know the u.s. has it and several other countries but i can't elaborate on the other ones

it has to do with where in korea you work - only in regards to teaching - if you were "brought over to teach" - tho it might make a difference if it's public vs. private education -


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gyopogirlfromtexas



Joined: 21 Apr 2007
Location: Austin,Texas

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

luvnpeas wrote:


The IRS can be pretty damn stupid. I just got their response from my form: they said I need to send them a statement stating I am US resident for tax purposes. 1) Isn't that what their form, which I signed, says? 2) How would I find out if I am US resident for tax purposes, other than by asking....the IRS?
I got the same thing in the mail last weekend. I hope this doesn't take another month. Am I just supposed to write it on paper that I'm a U.S. resident and mail it back to them? Or have something certified or notarized? I'm somewhat confused. I guess I'll call them today and ask what they want me to do.
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