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Lydia

Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Location: Sanbon/Gunpo city
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject: Why are Koreans so darn SERIOUS! |
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I tried to make my co-worker smile
by sending a joke,
and she takes offense at this!!!
The type of Korean humour they like is slapstick,
easy, simple tongue in cheek humour.
Why does everything have to be so stoic simple? |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Because they grew up in a different culture from you. |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Emailing photos of your bum is not considered funny here. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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I had to explain sarcasm to my Korean friends. Even after they understood it, they didn't find it funny. |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Korean humor is hilarious
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NOT! |
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Bagpipes11

Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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I think that comedy naturally evolves over time. At one time in our society, Charlie Chaplin was hilarious. Over time, the humor grows away from slapstick and develops into a type of humor where we can make fun of our own societies. Korea is not near secure enough to criticize themselves....especially with humor.
Most comedy in the Western world is poking fun at the way society is. I have never heard a Korean in my five years here openly criticize something within Korean society. If anything, they defend it. So in turn the only thing that is funny is some guy in a clown suit falling off of a chair while making a funny face.
Even when I watch Korean movies with Korean friends....the parts of the movie that I find funny are different than the parts they like. |
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winterwawa
Joined: 06 May 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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I learned that humor is a cultural thing the hard way. When I was living in England as an exchange student, I meet a Korean girl and we started dating. One night, I took her to a comedy club in Manchester. I laughed my a** off the entire time. She on the other hand, didn't get any of the jokes and just sat there stone faced for most of the performance. I should have recognized the error in my judgment early on and left the club, and done something she would have enjoyed. But I was having too much fun. That was our last date. She all of a sudden became too busy to see me. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I don't like Korean comedy, but I never thought Koreans were too serious. If anything, most of them seem excessively goofy. |
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doggyji

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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There is this term 몸 개그 which loosley means slapstick comedy. It has a connotation that it's childish but funny anyway. Have you ever watched those talk shows at night such as 야심만만? They aren't doing any slapstick things but they are laughing like there's no tomorrow only from talking, right? This should tell something. Also, there is the internet humour culture. They especially love parodies. We should keep in mind that the language barrier is a big thing. Even though you understand the meaning of the sentences in a foreign language somehow, in the meantime, the fun is lost unless you are very well immersed in it. |
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Rock
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think Asians in general aren't very apt to be humorous, or to understand joking. It makes them lose face, that facade, or what we'd call in English "a mask."
That's the way I see it. They like to wear masks. It's important to show their status and what they are, ie, someone important, a higher status, superior, since status is so important here. They then can't get the advantage over you if they expose themselves.
I believe it stems from Confucianism. It's too much of a hieracrchical society. Eamo knows all about this. |
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tigerbluekitty
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Rock wrote: |
I think Asians in general aren't very apt to be humorous, or to understand joking. It makes them lose face, that facade, or what we'd call in English "a mask."
That's the way I see it. They like to wear masks. It's important to show their status and what they are, ie, someone important, a higher status, superior, since status is so important here. They then can't get the advantage over you if they expose themselves.
I believe it stems from Confucianism. It's too much of a hieracrchical society. Eamo knows all about this. |
You make Korea sound like some kind of masquerade tea party.
Or maybe that's what it is!
ALL A BIG MASQUERADE TEA PARTY!!!
EWWW!!!!  |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Bagpipes11 wrote: |
I think that comedy naturally evolves over time. At one time in our society, Charlie Chaplin was hilarious. Over time, the humor grows away from slapstick and develops into a type of humor where we can make fun of our own societies. Korea is not near secure enough to criticize themselves....especially with humor.
Most comedy in the Western world is poking fun at the way society is. I have never heard a Korean in my five years here openly criticize something within Korean society. If anything, they defend it. So in turn the only thing that is funny is some guy in a clown suit falling off of a chair while making a funny face.
Even when I watch Korean movies with Korean friends....the parts of the movie that I find funny are different than the parts they like. |
I don't agree with this. Humor has evolved from Charlie Chaplin slapstick to it's current state of social critique? What about Oscar Wilde or Mark Twain?? There have been hundreds of funny satirists and social critiques before Charlie Chaplin. There may be a process of evolution after a particular period of cultural repression, but it's not like we were crawling up from physical humor to more sophisticated forms in just the last century.
And if you've been here 5 years and never heard a Korean criticize Korea, you've had a very bizarre, one-sided Korean experience. To me, this statement typifies the wrong-headed idea that pervades this message board which is, "we enlightened westerners are the only ones who recognize Korea's problems and they are blind to them." Meanwhile, most can't read Korean, and wouldn't know what kind of dialog is occurring in Korean society if it was shouted in their ear. The whole word is sh*t, and everybody knows it, but does it get any better? Sometimes social problems persist despite people's unblinking recognition of them. |
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waynehead
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Location: Jongno
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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I think we should shy away from sweeping generalizations about what koreans find funny, or koreans in general. Most of us don't know them well enough to say.
Just yesterday all the co-teachers in my office were giggling furiously about a series of funny pictures of car crashes (cars in pools, stuff like that). I asked what was so funny. They said all the captions under the pictures said something like "there goes another ajumma" or "the ajumma strikes again!" or something like that. Pretty self-deprecatory and satirical it seems to me...the sort of humor those of us in the west pride ourselves on... |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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This seriousness you see in your KT's, directors, and vice-directors is their discomfort being around foreigners and speaking English or perhaps something is wrong with the business side of things in a school causing stress. Sometimes it can also be that they simply don't like you, because you don't have the visual image they favor. As with anywhere you go, not everyone is going to like you and some places you can have fun and some places are no fun to work in at all. What's crazy is if they don't like you or feel uncomfortable with you, they still keep you on board to jump through the anxiety inducing hoops, because you are here to make them money and no one is waiting in line to replace you. (unless you work for a SMOE public school in Seoul)
I have seen Koreans joke, laugh, have fun, and enjoy humor, but only when things are going well and in a fun setting around people they favor. Sound familiar? Yes, it's like this everywhere in the world, but the situations are always different. |
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doggyji

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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billybrobby wrote: |
To me, this statement typifies the wrong-headed idea that pervades this message board which is, "we enlightened westerners are the only ones who recognize Korea's problems and they are blind to them." Meanwhile, most can't read Korean, and wouldn't know what kind of dialog is occurring in Korean society if it was shouted in their ear. The whole word is sh*t, and everybody knows it, but does it get any better? Sometimes social problems persist despite people's unblinking recognition of them. |
You and I have been saying this for a year now?
Koreans..and seriousness like their trademark..? I don't know about that. My close male Korean friends are some of the goofiest people. sojourner1 just said what I wanted to say. The right atmosphere and situation. I wouldn't really enjoy silly jokes with my department chair.
Those who are super fluent in Korean, enjoy this classic. Middle-aged detective, Kim Jeong-il.
http://blog.naver.com/doolyking?Redirect=Log&logNo=60004845138 |
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