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Snowkr
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
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 Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: Too late to apply to universities for September?? |
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Hi all
I'm seriously considering returning to Korea this fall to teach another year. I will recieve my masters in TESOL in December but I want to write my thesis while I'm teaching in Korea. I've been teaching adult students here in the states for the past year. Many of them are Korean... Japanese, Swiss, French, Brazilian, Turkish.. etc. In other words, I have some experience too.
Is it too late to look into getting a uni position? I realize they don't pay as well perhaps as public school positions but I'm kind of interested in writing my thesis on university students in Korea. I'd love to teach English majors in an academic program but beggars cannot be choosers!
Any advice?
Also... I'm just wondering... why is it so difficult to find a position working exclusively with high school students about to enter university? |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:28 am Post subject: Re: Too late to apply to universities for September?? |
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| Snowkr wrote: |
| Is it too late to look into getting a uni position? |
 No.
Most unis haven't even hired ANYONE yet. It's only the beginning of July. I'd be surprised to see very many jobs ads at all yet. In Korea, if it weren't for the last minute, nothing would ever get done.
People will be hired right up until classes begin. |
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Jeweltone
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Location: Seoul, S. Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:22 am Post subject: |
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...but all the "good" ones hire early. Yes, some unis are hiring, but good luck; they are the more prestigious ones, and competition is stiff... I am highly qualified, and still looking for work; always interviewed, always runner-up (Outcast Island), never hired. Sigh.  
Seriously, though, the smaller universities tend to hire later, and they have both some of the best conditions and the worst conditions. You stand a better chance of getting into them for your first year.
If that falls through, plan B is to find a hogwan that specializes in the age group you are interested in; they pay better as well. Modern English, Pagoda (careful here!), or any of the adult hogwons also cater to university students. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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From what I've seen over the last 4 years that I've been teaching in universities, hiring committees are always scrambling right up to the last few weeks before the semester starts to hire instructors.
Often, many new teachers don't show up. They get a better offer or a school that they really wanted to teach at comes through with a job offer, so the applicants back out at the last minute.
Keep your eyes open, if you don't get something now, it might be at the end of the summer that you find a position.
It's far from over for the university hiring season. |
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chriswylson
Joined: 20 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: |
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"I am highly qualified".
Could you be more specific? If you are not working at one of the best universities in Seoul, then you are far from being highly qualified. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| TECO wrote: |
From what I've seen over the last 4 years that I've been teaching in universities, hiring committees are always scrambling right up to the last few weeks before the semester starts to hire instructors.
Often, many new teachers don't show up. They get a better offer or a school that they really wanted to teach at comes through with a job offer, so the applicants back out at the last minute. |
There's one pisspoor uni that will be scrambling right up to the last day trying to get enough teachers. Why? Because they won't tell you how much you will be earning until they offer you the job... in August. They won't even disclose it during the interview.
I can see it now, they finally finish interviewing by beginning of August, then they decide who they wish to hire and contact them. Most of them already took other jobs in the meantime, so now the mad scramble for teachers begins. It's a fourth-tier uni anyway, so getting a job there is not exactly a coup to brag about. |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| Also... I'm just wondering... why is it so difficult to find a position working exclusively with high school students about to enter university? |
Because these students have better things to do than study English. They MUST get a high score on the nation-wide exam so they can get into one of the best schools. Even though English is a high priority on the exam, learning from a native speaker is NOT what they want/need. They want/need someone who will teach them how to do well on the exam! |
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Snowkr
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
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What is an adult hogwon?
I've never heard of such a thing. I thought they were only for kids... |
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icicle
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea
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No there are definitely adult hagwons as well. A large part of their market is people who need to pass English language tests either to get into university overseas (both undergraduate and postgraduate) or to get jobs in English speaking countries ... And this is a very big market in Korea ... There is also the business English market ... where people who are working in companies with trade with English speaking companies need to learn more English to use in business situations ...
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