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workingsmarter
Joined: 29 Jun 2007
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 Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: How to tell if you on the do not return list? |
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Ok so here goes...
I went to Korea just over 4 years ago and did a runner. I had my reasons at the time. It was a shady deal and I needed to leave.
I'm am asking this here because I'm not sure what to do to find out if I am on the DNR list. Should I call the consulate to find out or not? How would I go about doing this. I've spent considerable time on here researching this before posting, but I've not been able to find something that points to the specifics of my situation. 
I was flown over on the "tourist" scheme and never offically had an E2 visa stamped into my Passport. I did however sign a contract and submitted my documents to the school etc. I was there for four days and have only an entry and exit stamp in my passport.
It is my guess, that in all probablilty, the school broke the law to begin with, just by having me there to work without the correct visa. I was supposed to head to Japan for the visa run, but never did.
I had a return ticket that was given to me from the school that I used to go home with. After I had returned I recieved a nasty email from the director stating that it would be hard for me to leave or enter Korea etc. That they were a big company and could persue it but, how could they have reported me for this when I wasn't supposed to be working at all?
I would really like to head back to Korea and give it one more shot. Had I been a bit wiser ( and older) I would have probably stayed at the time and worked out the differences. I am older now( and certianly more mature) and I would examine my contract with a bit more dilligence before I signed anything.
Please if anybody could help me figure this out I would greatly appreciate it! |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| The best thing to do is apply for a job like nothing happened and see what happens. The whole left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing thing is quite common here. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: How to tell if you on the do not return list? |
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| workingsmarter wrote: |
I was flown over on the "tourist" scheme and never offically had an E2 visa stamped into my Passport. I did however sign a contract and submitted my documents to the school etc. I was there for four days and have only an entry and exit stamp in my passport.
It is my guess, that in all probablilty, the school broke the law to begin with, just by having me there to work without the correct visa. I was supposed to head to Japan for the visa run, but never did. |
Of course the school was breaking the law, if they had you doing work (which I'm sure they did). On the other hand, they apparently expected you to stick around long enough to do the visa run to Japan.
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| I had a return ticket that was given to me from the school that I used to go home with. |
Sorry, friend. But I can't see this as anything short of theft on your part. The contract, no doubt, stipulated that if you resigned short of the six month mark, you were to reimburse the employer for your airfare to Korea and if you were to resign prior to completion of the contract, you would not earn return airfare.
It seems to me that you stiffed the employer for both airfares.
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| After I had returned I recieved a nasty email from the director stating that it would be hard for me to leave or enter Korea etc. That they were a big company and could persue it but, how could they have reported me for this when I wasn't supposed to be working at all? |
They could easily report you for the theft (or perhaps theft of services) regarding the airfare. They could also report you to immigration for coming over here "for an in-person interview after which we would have sent him to Japan to obtain the visa prior to having him do any actual work."
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| I would really like to head back to Korea and give it one more shot. Had I been a bit wiser ( and older) I would have probably stayed at the time and worked out the differences. I am older now( and certianly more mature) and I would examine my contract with a bit more dilligence before I signed anything. |
Dude, you didn't even give it a shot. Four days? Those must have been some incredibly big "differences" for you to bail before you even got over jet lag.
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| Please if anybody could help me figure this out I would greatly appreciate it! |
You could try contacting Immigration yourself and ask them if they have a "Do Not Return" mark in your record. From what I understand, those are given for 5 years. You might also want to find out what the statute of limitations is for the above-mentioned theft/theft of services.
I suppose you could also contact the old school's director and reimburse him for the airfares. That might make him less unhappy and therefore not prone to exact revenge. |
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waynehead
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| If you bailed after four days you better have a pretty good story... |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't worry about it. |
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brandonhill31
Joined: 02 May 2007
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| some of these hagwon directors are crazier than the guys spiderman fights. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| Just pretend it never happened. You could also try a different city since none of these immigration people seem to talk to each other. I would also like to hear your story first before labelling you a thief. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| Just pretend it never happened. |
Look an Ostrich.....
You did something incredibly immature back then. You stiffed an employer for airfaire (two way) and left him and his students +staff holding the bag.
If the information you provided is correct then your employer had every right to report you to the government and they in turn had every right to bar you from returning to Korea.
I would suggest you contact immigration and enquire. I would also suggest that if you are as you say, more mature now, that you contact your former employer and offer to pay back the airfaire as compensation for running and basically stealing that money.
Or, try to fly under the radar and become yet one more person who does not own up to his actions here and continue blaming Korea and the system..... |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| there is no such thing as a "Do not return" list. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| Ah yes there is Julius. |
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Sody
Joined: 14 May 2006
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I guarantee you that there is indeed a blacklist at the immigration office that keeps track of these things. Oh and that list is permanent. They don't delete your name off of it after a few years. I would strongly suggest the OP try and hope they didn't report him. If they did, well you don't lose anything by trying, just your pride.
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