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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: Korea's good, but Finland & Hong Kong kick ass! |
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SK�s educational achievement one of highest: OECD survey
Educational environment still falls behind |
http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/219926.html
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The level of educational achievement of South Korean students is ranked as one of the highest in the world, while the educational environment in South Korea still lags behind.
According to a survey of 55 economies called the 2007 World Competitiveness Yearbook and conducted by the Swiss-based International Institute for Management Development (IMD), South Korean junior high school students were ranked third in mathematics and fourth in science in terms of the Program for International Student Assessment (PISA). In mathematics, Hong Kong and Finland placed ahead of South Korea; in science, Finland came first, followed by Japan and Hong Kong. The survey also reported that forty-nine percent of South Korean adults aged between 25 and 34 have university credentials, ranking fourth.
However, the average number of students in elementary and middle/high schools in South Korea stood at 29.1 and 17.9 each, far below 16.9 and 13.3, the average numbers recorded by Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) member states. Of the 55 economies, South Korea was ranked at 52nd and 44th in the two categories, respectively.
South Korea spends 4.6 percent of its gross domestic product for public education, representing 29th place in the survey, compared with Denmark (8.2 percent), Belgium (8.1 percent), Iceland (7.7 percent) and Finland (7.5 percent).
In terms of national competitiveness, South Korea is ranked 29th, while the U.S. ranked first, followed by Singapore, Hong Kong and Denmark. As for other East Asian nations, China, Taiwan and Japan was 15th, 18th and 24th, respectively. |
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BuHaoChi
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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SeoulFinn

Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Location: 1h from Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Finland is the greatest country in the world. |
Take that back! I mean it, take that back or I will contact admin(s) and Korean Cyber Police and have you banned from this site for good.  |
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sirfro

Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Location: Guui-dong...lol
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Korea's good, but Finland & Hong Kong kick ass! |
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In terms of national competitiveness, South Korea is ranked 29th, while the U.S. ranked first, followed by Singapore, Hong Kong and Denmark. As for other East Asian nations, China, Taiwan and Japan was 15th, 18th and 24th, respectively. |
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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm. Maybe Korea isn't as good at science as it seems.
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Korea�s Basic Science Education Needs Improvement |
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2007070966828
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A student raised his hand in a first-year class at a prestigious Korean engineering college.
Pointing to the symbol �∫,� the student asked, �What is that?� The professor was flabbergasted, finally realizing that he was not joking.
The journal Science reported the incredible story on the stark reality of the country�s science education in its July 6 issue. The journal quoted Lee Deok-hwan, a chemistry professor at Sogang University, as saying, �Korea�s science education is in an unprecedented crisis.�
Korea�s top university needs supplementary classes for science-
The journal said in its special article on science and engineering education among the world�s universities that two-thirds of Korea�s high schoolers go to college without learning science in school, and that universities even have to give supplementary science classes for them.
For instance, one out of five freshmen at Seoul National University, the country�s top university, is having difficulty understanding what they learn from class, according to the journal. Only 39 out of 243 science and engineering freshmen at SNU who wanted to take the intensive physics course, passed the physics test in March.
Under these circumstances, the university has come up with a basic science education course reform plan in which freshmen are divided and taught according to their math and science performances.
Excessive government control undermining basic science education-
The journal also said that Korea is in an odd situation in which it has more than doubled its R&D investment over the past five years, but that it has dismissed science and math education.
The reason is poor basic science education. While excessively controlling the content of textbooks and classes, the government has failed to stir imaginations in students.
Furthermore, it reported the recent developments in the country�s scientific community, including its demand for education course reform, to prevent a further undermining of science education.
The journal added that poor basic science education could undermine the quality of important social discussions related to science, including issues of radioactive waste and high-speed trains.
Japan and China value science-
The special article focuses on the science and engineering education of universities in 11 countries.
Keio University of Japan stresses convergence of academic disciplines and education, assigning even its law and liberal arts majors to analyze DNA in its labs.
Southeast University of China strengthened English education for physics majors to have discussions with global researchers and to boost the global competitiveness of its students.
By contrast, regarding Korea, the magazine highlighted basic problems, including high school students shunning studying science and engineering in college and the lowering standards of college freshmen. A Korean scientist said, �It seems that Science was surprised at such an odd situation in Korea, which ranked among the top in many recent science and math Olympiads.�
The journal interviewed many Korean scientists, including Dean of Natural Sciences at SNU Oh Se-jung, Korean Mathematical Society Chairman Kim Do-han, Sogang University professor Lee Deok-hwan and Yonsei University professor Min Kyung-chan.
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genezorm

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Mokpo
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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laos kicks ass too |
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m8888888
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Finland has scored first or right up there on the PISA the last few years at least. Some reasons I've heard about why that might be:
1. It's a prestigious job to be a teacher in Finland. Kind of like being a doctor in the US. It doesn't pay more than other countries, but it's not something you do when you've studied Liberal Arts and can't think of anything else to do with that degree. It's competitive to get into Teacher's College.
2. It's popular to read in Finland. Reading books isn't something only the dorky kids do, it's something everybody does.
3. There aren't many immigrants, so everyone is completely fluent in Finnish. They don't have to have FSL (Finnish Second Language!) classes, and everyone starts from a higher base.
4. The Finnish race is highly superior to all others.
It's also a wealthy country, with free university, so a highly-educated populace to begin with. It sounds like Korea has a lot of the same factors in common, too. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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The Finnish race is highly superior to all others.
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Hang in there dude, maybe someday they'll have a telethon for Azzbrainatitis....  |
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mikekim
Joined: 11 Aug 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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How can you gauge this accurately. If you have a whole bunch of smart kids one year, it doesn't mean your whole education system is awesome. Its jr. high school too. From what I have seen of junior high school students across the world jr high kids are more interested in kicking each other in the groin and trying to sneak into the girls changeroom. |
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