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Peter Blackmore
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 Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: Online Life Experience Accredited Degrees |
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This enquiry is for someone who comes from a background of having had next to no opportunity to gain formal education but has gained and made positive life experience. There is a University in the USA (Rochville) that will award a degree on the basis of what you already know, and claim you can "qualify for an accredited degree that is accepted and recognized worldwide". Does anyone know of or have experience of useful recognition of such a degree?
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faster
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Online Life Experience Accredited Degrees |
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| Peter Blackmore wrote: |
This enquiry is for someone who comes from a background of having had next to no opportunity to gain formal education but has gained and made positive life experience. There is a University in the USA (Rochville) that will award a degree on the basis of what you already know, and claim you can "qualify for an accredited degree that is accepted and recognized worldwide". Does anyone know of or have experience of useful recognition of such a degree?
warm regards
Peter |
With that degree and 3000 won you can buy a bottle of soju at any hof in town. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Isn't it called "I Paid for this Degree" |
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Peter Blackmore
Joined: 19 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: RPL |
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RPL is recognition of prior learning and is, up to a %, of the diploma or degree, bonafide in many colleges and universities. The question is does experience exist among Dave's readers as to the value of a whole degree based on RPL?
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Peter |
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Scouse Mouse
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Location: Cloud #9
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that guy
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Location: long gone
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:46 am Post subject: |
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And I quote:
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Rochville University is an unaccredited online university offering a "Life Experience Degree, and Certificate Program." It has been accused of being a diploma mill.
The Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board has indicated that Rochville, Belford University, and the agencies from which they claim accreditation "appear to be operated by the same people." |
more, yet:
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On December 15, 2005, CNN aired a report on diploma mills and terrorism.[1] As part of its coverage, the network purchased a "master's degree" in chemistry from Rochville in the name of Abu Salsabil Hassan Omar:
"Who is Omairer? The federal government says he's an explosives and chemical weapons expert for the terrorist group al Qaeda . So how did this alleged terrorist with a five million dollar bounty on his head earn a Masters in Chemistry from this American university?
Well, we earned it for him with $500 and an Internet connection. And the United States district attorney in Spokane, Washington, says there could be thousands of potential terrorists who have done what we just did." [3]
A CNN reporter was able to purchase better grades and honors for "Omar," for an additional $30.
The report stated that all attempts to find a physical presence for Rochville failed, noting that the "diploma" purchased by the network was mailed from the United Arab Emirates. |
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koon_taung_daeng
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Location: south korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| if your asking can your friend , which im guessing is probably you, can get a visa with a life experience degree here in korea then the answer is no, my friend just tried last month and they shut him down sayin your degree is not accredited. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Peter,
I just searched to see what other posts you've made. From those posts, it seems that you actually are in South Korea. How, then, can you be unaware of the South Korean government's attitude toward diploma mills and fraudulent degrees? The three latest scandals are two South Koreans and one Canadian with forged degrees.
Now for a personal comment on the fake degree issue: I worked hard and long for my A.B. in Linguistics. I'm very pleased with what I learned from actual professors with actual qualifications and experience in the field.
I'm also a retired member of the US Armed Forces. I worked long and hard to earn my promotions and my retirement, not to mention my Veteran's benefits. Quite often, there are news reports of people getting caught faking a military record, to include even having the Congressional Medal of Honor. Those guys are found out after they're featured prominently in some town ceremony honoring real heroes, people who really suffered and in some cases died. There's a book about some of the fakers: Fake Warriors. What's your personal opinion of those fakers?
Now I ask you to think about your own experiences at university. Did you work hard? Did you study? Did you know anyone who cheated? What happened to the cheaters when they got caught? Would you, personally, trust them on a professional issue?
Now what about those folks with fake medals or fake diplomas? Will you trust them? I certainly won't. They're liars and they're profiting in one way or another from their deceit. And they're hurting your reputation here when they get caught.
Why you would plug a diploma mill is beyond me. Your assertion that your "friend" has "had next to no opportunity to gain formal education" is balderdash. There are plenty of programs for those with financial hardship. If your "friend" has a poor academic record, maybe a college education isn't what's needed. Purchasing a fake education certainly isn't needed. If the "friend" is actually you, as a poster above suspects, I would urge you to leave the country poste haste if you're employed here under a fake degree.
By the way, regarding this comment of yours:
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| RPL is recognition of prior learning and is, up to a %, of the diploma or degree, bonafide in many colleges and universities. The question is does experience exist among Dave's readers as to the value of a whole degree based on RPL? |
Those universities grant credit in a systematic and fair way; for example, those who have gone through military training schools are granted a few credits relevant to that training as described in the American Council on Education's Guide to the Evaluation of Educational Experiences in the Armed Services. The credits are based on an actual evaluation of the training and you can find that the percentage granted, of course, isn't 100% of the degree requirement. There is at least one person in South Korea, a Canadian citizen, who has a real life answer as to the value of a 100% RPL "degree": he's in jail and will be for the next six months.
So, is your friend here in Korea on a fake degree? Is the other poster correct in his or her suspicion? |
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Peter Blackmore
Joined: 19 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:10 am Post subject: Thankyou |
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Thankyou for the great information.
warm regards
Peter |
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