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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Public School blues Reply with quote

I've met a lot of public school teachers, and it seems around the 5-7th month period of their contract, a lot of them become depressed or bummed out about their jobs. Kind of like going through cultural shock but specific to the Korean public school.

I went through them myself at about the six month mark and went as far as as seriously considering quitting my job.

Anyone else?
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in my 5th month, and the only thing that I can really complain about is the full schedule I have during the vacation period. I can't really complain though since I knew that it was a possibility I would have to work. Before I decide to work another year at this school I'll negotiate more vacation time. Other than that, things are fine where I am
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Public School blues Reply with quote

bosintang wrote:
I've met a lot of public school teachers, and it seems around the 5-7th month period of their contract, a lot of them become depressed or bummed out about their jobs. Kind of like going through cultural shock but specific to the Korean public school.

I went through them myself at about the six month mark and went as far as as seriously considering quitting my job.

Anyone else?


Yes, I seriously considered quitting my public school job at the end of the first semester, I even went so far as to go for job interviews.

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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've met a lot of public school teachers, and it seems around the 5-7th month period of their contract, a lot of them become depressed or bummed out about their jobs. Kind of like going through cultural shock but specific to the Korean public school.


I'm curious why this is specific to the public school jobs? Are these vets who have been in Korea for a few years or first year teachers?

I ask this, because as a head teacher at a hogwan I saw this pattern in nearly ALL first year teachers! For those in their first year it IS culture shock, and it isn't specific to one kind of workplace.

For those who have been in Korea awhile, an explanation may be boredome. Let's face it, there is NO diversity in the cirriculum. The level of the speakers is very low, compared to a high level hogwan where you might have a couple of classes where you can communicate well with the students about their real lives. Also, now working at an elementary school I miss the diversity of working with different levels of ability and different ages. In one day at a hogwan I could have elementary, middle school, and even some high school classes. It's easy to become bored at a public school job. That doesn't mean I will EVER go back to a hogwan...but I find I have to find more creative ways to make my classes and my interaction with the students and the school fresh and fun...for me more than for them.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. I started in August 2005 and had so much free time 5-7 months later I could hardly wait for the second semester to start.

But did I ever hit the mid-contract blues big-time teaching hagwan.

5 months: ultimatum.
6 months: resignation.
7 months: bye-bye forever.
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good points Gamecock. And you're right, I suspect it's hits people who are at the beginning or the end of their sojourn in Korea harder than people in the middle.

I think there are a couple of differences between a hagwon and public school. In a public school, you're by yourself, so if you're feeling bummed out about work, you really have nobody to share it with. At least for me -- I'm sure others are similar -- this made my depressions longer than if I had someone to blow steam off with and get it out of me.

I also think the point you said about boredom is valid. By the six-month mark, you really are in a routine that's hard to shake out of. Doing the same lesson over and over to students who are by now used to you and disinterested. Really grinds you down. It took me a few weeks to shake out of it.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't help that Korean public school teachers are genreally the most god damn awful people one could meet here; especially the women. I've been here for over 4 years and it still pushes me to breaking point. My school is full of sickly, square, middle aged protestant women.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am burned out now. It's just so boring, and I have too much free time. Free time would be good if I lived in a bigger town/city, but where I live it's far too small and conservative to do much of value. That's why I've decided to teach at a uni next semester - it may be very challenging, but at least that'll give me some motivation and stimulation.
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Ekuboko



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Location: ex-Gyeonggi

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first semester in public school is really long compared to the second semester... so by the time you get to summer break, you're climbing the walls dying for a break.

I really wish that Korean schools had at least 3 semesters...
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekuboko wrote:
The first semester in public school is really long compared to the second semester... so by the time you get to summer break, you're climbing the walls dying for a break.

I really wish that Korean schools had at least 3 semesters...


That's ture. I think what pushed me over the edge was the fact that my crappy supervisor made me do 4 weeks of extra English conversation classes during the winter vacation. I didn't know at the time that the limit was 14 days, I was exhausted and depressed by the end of that.

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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in my 5th month and I'm going through it right now. I've even passed my resume around to different employers.

The main reason for my slump is the lack of leeway that my school gives me. I figured that if I gave 150% and didn't complain that I would get a few favors tossed my way (like a week of no camp classes during break, or coming in late/leaving early if there are no English classes that day).

Instead, I'm told I can't leave school due to "liability" issues in case I got hurt outside of school during my hours. I will also be teaching every day this summer.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I guess this is normal? Confused

I keep asking myself why bother? This is such a f**ked up situation, it's really not worth the money.

But I have gone through this in hagwans too, and in Mexico too. It's something about a 1 year term.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwangjuboy wrote:
It doesn't help that Korean public school teachers are genreally the most god damn awful people one could meet here; especially the women. I've been here for over 4 years and it still pushes me to breaking point. My school is full of sickly, square, middle aged protestant women.


The Catholics are a lot cooler. Many Koreans consider Catholics and Christians to be separate religions. The Catholics like too drink too.
A lot of the so called Christians are Tea totalars.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My problem is the boredom.

Pure and unadulterated boredom.

It is killing me.

I need some sort of mental stimulation not more genital stimulation
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
My problem is the boredom.

Pure and unadulterated boredom.

It is killing me.

I need some sort of mental stimulation not more genital stimulation


Come to my school and help teach my summer camp classes. In exchange I'll teach you Korean, computer programming, and how to eat an overstuffed burrito without the bottom falling out on you.
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