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newintown
Joined: 01 Jan 2007
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 Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:11 am Post subject: north american teachers wanted |
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is anyone else personally affronted by the number of job advertisements that only want north american applicants?
it really enrages me & amounts to discrimination. not that any morals or ethics seem to apply here (in my experience of the ESL world).
surely in the 21st century anyone learning english as a second language should be encouraged to familiarise themselves with any native english speaker, regardless of their country of origin. |
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wo buxihuan hanguoren
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
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It's not as common now as it was a few years ago. Many Koreans are going to non-North American countries to study these days.
I remember a few schools where they wanted N-American English, but didn't like Americans, so they only wanted to hire Canadians. Koreans are so the smart sometimes~^^ |
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unknown9398
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
Location: Yeongcheon, S. Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: Re: north american teachers wanted |
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| newintown wrote: |
is anyone else personally affronted by the number of job advertisements that only want north american applicants?
it really enrages me & amounts to discrimination. not that any morals or ethics seem to apply here (in my experience of the ESL world).
surely in the 21st century anyone learning english as a second language should be encouraged to familiarise themselves with any native english speaker, regardless of their country of origin. |
Don't let it bother you. Think about the Alcoholics Anonymous prayer. "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can change, and the wisdom to know the difference." |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| wo buxihuan hanguoren wrote: |
| I remember a few schools where they wanted N-American English, but didn't like Americans, so they only wanted to hire Canadians. Koreans are so the smart sometimes~^^ |
I don't mean to stereotype, but of the handful of Americans (six or seven) I've met here there is only one I can stand to be around.
The others were abrasive, rude ("excuse me, got a light?" "Don't talk to me"), pretentious or just plain sleazy. Don't even get me started on the soldiers I saw walking around Seoul late at night yelling "sucky sucky" to girls loitering outside one of the bars. |
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mongrelcat
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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[quote="IncognitoHFX
("excuse me, got a light?"
you consider that rude? |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| wo buxihuan hanguoren wrote: |
| I remember a few schools where they wanted N-American English, but didn't like Americans, so they only wanted to hire Canadians. Koreans are so the smart sometimes~^^ |
I don't mean to stereotype, but of the handful of Americans (six or seven) I've met here there is only one I can stand to be around.
The others were abrasive, rude ("excuse me, got a light?" "Don't talk to me"), pretentious or just plain sleazy. Don't even get me started on the soldiers I saw walking around Seoul late at night yelling "sucky sucky" to girls loitering outside one of the bars. |
\ Of 6 or 7 foreigners of any country I've met here, I can only stand one. Seems to be the way.
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| ("excuse me, got a light?" "Don't talk to me" |
Was this the same guy who said both? if it was different people than I don't see how you could get offended by being asked for a light. |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:11 am Post subject: |
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[quote="IncognitoHFX
("excuse me, got a light?"
you consider that rude? |
No, I asked that to someone at a bar in Seoul. He turned around and said "Don't talk to me". I couldn't have been any more polite either, I was floored by it. I hadn't been drinking, I wasn't pushy... maybe I'm just oversensitive to this kind of thing having not spent time in the States.
Oh yeah, and I knew he was from the States because he and his friends sounded/looked very much like the West Coast. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| mongrelcat wrote: |
[quote="IncognitoHFX
("excuse me, got a light?"
you consider that rude? |
No, I asked that to someone at a bar in Seoul. He turned around and said "Don't talk to me". I couldn't have been any more polite either, I was floored by it. I hadn't been drinking, I wasn't pushy... maybe I'm just oversensitive to this kind of thing having not spent time in the States. |
Was he bigger than you? I think thats call him a 'c*nt' time and see whats happens. Those kind of put downs aren't cool.
edit: maybe a little over the top, but those kind of snarky little answers really really annoy me.
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Treefarmer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| it's obviously a really shite school if they say that |
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HighTreason
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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No, I asked that to someone at a bar in Seoul. He turned around and said "Don't talk to me". I couldn't have been any more polite either, I was floored by it. I hadn't been drinking, I wasn't pushy... maybe I'm just oversensitive to this kind of thing having not spent time in the States.
Oh yeah, and I knew he was from the States because he and his friends sounded/looked very much like the West Coast. |
Trust me, it has nothing to do with your not having spent time in the States. As an American all my life, I can confirm that any American would consider this just as rude. This guy was apparently just an a$$hole. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| mongrelcat wrote: |
[quote="IncognitoHFX
("excuse me, got a light?"
you consider that rude? |
No, I asked that to someone at a bar in Seoul. He turned around and said "Don't talk to me". I couldn't have been any more polite either, I was floored by it. I hadn't been drinking, I wasn't pushy... maybe I'm just oversensitive to this kind of thing having not spent time in the States.
Oh yeah, and I knew he was from the States because he and his friends sounded/looked very much like the West Coast. |
the guy was a tool, yes. This post doesn't exactly make you look great either. Not sure how someone looks "west coast" or how "west coast- California edition" differs from "west coast- BC edition".
Just take people as individuals, not as representatives of stereotypes and you'll be fine |
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IncognitoHFX
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| mongrelcat wrote: |
[quote="IncognitoHFX
("excuse me, got a light?"
you consider that rude? |
No, I asked that to someone at a bar in Seoul. He turned around and said "Don't talk to me". I couldn't have been any more polite either, I was floored by it. I hadn't been drinking, I wasn't pushy... maybe I'm just oversensitive to this kind of thing having not spent time in the States.
Oh yeah, and I knew he was from the States because he and his friends sounded/looked very much like the West Coast. |
the guy was a tool, yes. This post doesn't exactly make you look great either. Not sure how someone looks "west coast" or how "west coast- California edition" differs from "west coast- BC edition".
Just take people as individuals, not as representatives of stereotypes and you'll be fine |
Yeah, I heard BC can be pretty bad in that department. I have a friend there now who goes on and on about how isolated she feels having grown up in the Maritimes where people do everything short of hugging you after you buy a chocolate bar in their store.
I figured they were American because they were tanned, they sounded like something-something-something-Boulevard and frankly, looked like they were caught up in an undertow off a Californian beach and washed up in Korea by accident. |
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peppermint
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Where the hell in the Maritimes did you grow up? In any city I've ever lived in, anything beyond a smile while handing my my change is noteworthy. the hug for a chocolate bar thing you speak of is a very small town thing, not a Maritime friendliness thing.
Sorry kid, I grew up in St. John's NL, and yeah people are friendly out East. Seems to me it's because there generally aren't enough people around to get on each others nerves, not something in the genes or the water. |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
| Where the hell in the Maritimes did you grow up? In any city I've ever lived in, anything beyond a smile while handing my my change is noteworthy. the hug for a chocolate bar thing you speak of is a very small town thing, not a Maritime friendliness thing. |
I grew up in a very small town, but when I lived in Halifax I'd feel guilty if I didn't at least say "'have a nice day" to someone after making any kind of exchange. Its just... manners. . |
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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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[/quote] I figured they were American because they were tanned, they sounded like something-something-something-Boulevard and frankly, looked like they were caught up in an undertow off a Californian beach and washed up in Korea by accident.[/quote]
Don't be fooled; I thought the same when I first got here, but I was shocked that there are Canadians like this, too. |
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