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elliemk



Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: Sparkling Korea!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:02 am    Post subject: Pension plan question Reply with quote

My contract didn't include pension plan. My director says he has never paid into this. He's ready now not to hire me. But I still want to go to Korea. Does the Korean government check on foreigners to make sure they are paying into the plan? Please rush your reply! Thanks!
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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: Pension plan question Reply with quote

elliemk wrote:
My contract didn't include pension plan. My director says he has never paid into this. He's ready now not to hire me. But I still want to go to Korea. Does the Korean government check on foreigners to make sure they are paying into the plan? Please rush your reply! Thanks!


It's MANDATORY that your employer pay into the Korean National Pension Plan even if it's not in your contract. If he's not ready to hire you for the above reason that is a RED FLAG. Employers who have this attitude have pocketed contributions deducted from their employee's monthly salary and income taxes (monthly withholding taxes) at the expense of their employees. Employers with this attitude have also robbed people of their severance pay and plane ticket home upon completion of their labor contract. Do not sign with this employer and look for another job.


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elliemk



Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: Sparkling Korea!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:32 am    Post subject: RE: Mandatory Reply with quote

He says he doesn't know about it. He was my first friend in Korea and has always been honest and ethical with me. Now I am 58 and it's difficult to find a job, but the job and benefits he's offering are some of the best I've seen for a hakwon.

So, the question is - what happens if he doesn't do it? Does the Korean government check on these thing? Thanks.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If what you're worried about is getting caught, then, yes, it is quite possible to come into Korea and work with an E2 visa and pay no taxes, no pension contribution and not sign up for the national health insurance and work without getting caught. You get paid in cash and work in the underground economy. You could still get caught, but the odds are you won't, at least not in the first year or so.

You probably want to make sure that your pay is a little higher to compensate for your lack of these benefits. You might also want to get onto some form of private insurance, especially if you have any risk factors that you know of that could lead to your need for coverage.

You might also have trouble sending home more than $10,000 dollars US per year if you can't prove that you've earned it and paid your taxes. There are probabaly plenty of ways to work around this, but you'll have to be creative.

If you make a deal to work in the underground economy, and do so with your eyes open, then be sure not to come back later and complain about what you're not getting. And don't expect to change your employer subsequent to signing on. He will see your failure to keep the deal (honor among thieves) as a betrayal and could fight tooth and nail against you.

Good luck.
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elliemk



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: RE: Thieves, etc. Reply with quote

The contact has national health insurance, taking taxes out according to law - all else according to what I've read on this forum. It's just the pension plan. That is my question - does the Korean gov. check about pension plan for foreigners.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're enrolled in the National Health Insurance through your employer, and not on as a family member, then eventually the National Pension Scheme will catch up to you and make you sign up. It could be a matter of months or years, but they do check.
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elliemk



Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: RE: Catching up to me Reply with quote

Okay, Thanks! Then I will save my 4.5 percent contribution and if it does catch up with me, then I'll have the money to pay retroactively. I desperately want to come back to Korea, and due to my age, it is difficult to find such a great position as the one my friend is offering. Smile
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: RE: Catching up to me Reply with quote

elliemk wrote:
Okay, Thanks! Then I will save my 4.5 percent contribution and if it does catch up with me, then I'll have the money to pay retroactively. I desperately want to come back to Korea, and due to my age, it is difficult to find such a great position as the one my friend is offering. Smile


And make sure that you get 4.5% more from your boss for the pension contributions he is NOT making on your behalf.

On average it works out to more than a million won per year per foreigner that your boss is keeping in his pocket and has been doing so since it became manditory back in 1999.

8 million won times the number of foreigners that he employs put back in his pocket. Good for him, sucks to be one of his workers.
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elliemk



Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: RE: And make sure that you get 4.5% Reply with quote

Well, he's paying me 2,300,000 instead of the 2,200,000 originally offered, so that will just about cover it. And, I will be the only foreigner at the school.
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