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wayfarer
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject: High salaries with long hours |
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I have TESOL training but no actual job experience in teaching. So when I look at a couple of these offers emailed to me today, it seems like 2.6 million per month is kind of high for me. But the hours are from 9am to 7pm... that's like fifty hours a week. I wonder what it would feel like to teach that long, and whether I'm greedy enough to do it.
...thoughts? |
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Boreal
Joined: 04 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Depends on the location and benefits offered. Typical wages with TESOL are around 2.0 to 2.2, with 22-30 teaching hours a week and 40 hours a week at the school. 50 teaching hours a week is worth far, far more than 2.6, obviously.
You're basically working 40-50 hours a week overtime, for 400k more. That's 10k/hour, which is far, far below that of most overtime.
You don't mention how many classes a week you'll have. 30 or more, you'd be best off looking elsewhere. |
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wayfarer
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Depends on the location and benefits offered. Typical wages with TESOL are around 2.0 to 2.2, with 22-30 teaching hours a week and 40 hours a week at the school. 50 teaching hours a week is worth far, far more than 2.6, obviously.
You're basically working 40-50 hours a week overtime, for 400k more. That's 10k/hour, which is far, far below that of most overtime.
You don't mention how many classes a week you'll have. 30 or more, you'd be best off looking elsewhere. |
Sorry I actually meant 50 hours at the school and forty teaching hours. That's what they say, at least. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| wayfarer wrote: |
| Boreal wrote: |
Depends on the location and benefits offered. Typical wages with TESOL are around 2.0 to 2.2, with 22-30 teaching hours a week and 40 hours a week at the school. 50 teaching hours a week is worth far, far more than 2.6, obviously.
You're basically working 40-50 hours a week overtime, for 400k more. That's 10k/hour, which is far, far below that of most overtime.
You don't mention how many classes a week you'll have. 30 or more, you'd be best off looking elsewhere. |
Sorry I actually meant 50 hours at the school and forty teaching hours. That's what they say, at least. |
40 teaching hours @ 17k per hour is just over 2.7 mil.
30 classes for 2.2mil + (10*25,000)*4weeks = 3.2 mil.
At 2.6 you are getting screwed and burn out for 600k per month less than if they paid overtime rates for your overtime classes.
Just for the record, I earn on average, 3 mil per month and teach 28 classes of 40 minutes in a 40 hour work week (9-5, M-F).
My co-worker (green as grass newbie with NO experience or TESOL) earns 2.6 for the same class load and work conditions. |
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wayfarer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Um... I thought I was looking at a set monthly salary. Here is what one of the offer's email says (I don't have the contract yet):
Monthly payment : 2.6~2.75
Teaching to : kinder~elementary
Teaching Hours: 40 hours/week
Teaching time : 9:00~7:30(Mon,Wed,Fri)
9:00~6:40(Tue,Thu)
Foreign teacher in the school : 12
Overtime : 20000
Benefit : Housing furnished
1-year end serverance
50% pension and health insurance
10 paid vacation
roundtrip airfare
I know I'm probably missing something in what you wrote. Could you lay it out for me a little slower? thanks |
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Optimus Prime
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Full-time job @ fewest possible hours that will give you an E2. Then a second legal part-time gig, and privates on the weekends. You'll make over 6 mill. All for about the same stress levels and hours as one of these elite test-prep gigs that pay you 3 mill. |
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Pak Yu Man
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Yep...listen to Optimus when he tells you to work illegally.
There are a lot of schools looking for a foreigner. Call them up and ask for more money. Try to change the work hours or get a better vacation.
It's buyers market, and Koreans think they need foreigners. |
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Saxiif
Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Just for the record, I earn on average, 3 mil per month and teach 28 classes of 40 minutes in a 40 hour work week (9-5, M-F).
My co-worker (green as grass newbie with NO experience or TESOL) earns 2.6 for the same class load and work conditions. |
What kind of school do you teach at? Unless its standarized test-prep or something else niche like that, that kind of pay for those kind of hours is VERY atypical. |
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wayfarer
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
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I've pretty much decided against a job that requires more than 40 hours a week at work.
Right now I've been offered a contract for a private school that I like a lot, I like the hours, I've spoken to another teacher, all that, and it's 2.1 mil. I'm just wondering if I should hold out for a public school job.
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Just for the record, I earn on average, 3 mil per month and teach 28 classes of 40 minutes in a 40 hour work week (9-5, M-F).
My co-worker (green as grass newbie with NO experience or TESOL) earns 2.6 for the same class load and work conditions. |
What kind of school do you teach at? Unless its standarized test-prep or something else niche like that, that kind of pay for those kind of hours is VERY atypical. |
I think that would be a public school position where you have the option to teach extra classes for overtime pay, right? and still be at the school for only 40 hours? If so, my questions about those positions are these:
1) do most public schools actually give you the option to take on those extra classes?
2) are you usually the only foreign teacher in the school?
3) are they hard to get?
thanks. |
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