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Any gypos, who do not speak fluent korean here?
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enochyoo



Joined: 23 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:45 am    Post subject: Any gypos, who do not speak fluent korean here? Reply with quote

Just wondering If there are others like me on this forum who are living in Korea right now.
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princey



Joined: 28 Sep 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i personally feel like im not fluent in korean my vocabulary sucks
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Xaiko



Joined: 05 Oct 2009
Location: Jamsil

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

me
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enochyoo



Joined: 23 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking of teaching there next year, how did you guys make friends when you first arrived? Where are you guys from?

Is your social crowd other gypos, foreigners, or koreans?
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Any gypos, who do not speak fluent korean here? Reply with quote

enochyoo wrote:
Just wondering If there are others like me on this forum who are living in Korea right now.


Almost all of them.
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nosmallplans



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: noksapyeong

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it's just me but I'm like oil and water with other gyopos - I like having my circle of foreigners who count on me to know everything about Korean and I can't imagine having to split such attention with another individual.

Also, my Korean is terrible - till I drink, then I find myself in the unenjoyable position of official "help-me-get-that-Korean-girl-to-sleep-with-me-translator."
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t1m1ty



Joined: 24 May 2009
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can read, write, and understand. I can't speak any Korean though. I have a large vocabulary and grew up hearing the language, but I think I'm too shy or just not confident enough to actually speak it. Every store I go to, I speak English. I get the weirdest looks sometimes hahaha
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this gyopo friend who had some great stories about how they made him join the army when he emigrated to Korea after living in Texas his whole life and not speaking a word of the language. I guess he bunged up often enough that they classified him as mentally challenged and booted him.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't speak much Korean when I first came years ago. I did learn and it made my life better here, not to mention my job prospects. I'd say most gyopos don't stay that long, though, especially the ones from the U.S.

I know people who've been in Korea for eons and STILL cannot (or more likely will not) learn Korean. It's kind of like a gyopo griping about Koreans in the U.S. not learning English yet the gyopo does the same when it comes to Korean.
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exit86



Joined: 17 May 2006

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just out of curiousity, how is it that most of the above posters
of Korean ethnicity didn't pick up sufficient communicative skills in your
parents' primary language? Was Korean spoken at home and the dominant language outside this setting? Did your parents try to educate you in their ethnic language?
(I ask because I have been teaching my daughter English in the home
while we all speak Korean outside of the home here in Korea. My situation is probably the exact opposite of that of your parents with you all in your respective
countries. My linguistics books all agree upon this approach which my wife and I have employed; but it seems some posters here have experienced differing results.)

Thanks!
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've known a number of gyopos who've not been able to speak Korean. Unlike non-gyopos, they often complain about people thinking they're stupid for not speaking Korean... when I speak it, albeit mangled and butchered, I get no reaction or praise.
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enochyoo



Joined: 23 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

exit86 wrote:
Just out of curiousity, how is it that most of the above posters
of Korean ethnicity didn't pick up sufficient communicative skills in your
parents' primary language? Was Korean spoken at home and the dominant language outside this setting? Did your parents try to educate you in their ethnic language?
(I ask because I have been teaching my daughter English in the home
while we all speak Korean outside of the home here in Korea. My situation is probably the exact opposite of that of your parents with you all in your respective
countries. My linguistics books all agree upon this approach which my wife and I have employed; but it seems some posters here have experienced differing results.)

Thanks!


i grew up in the states, and my single parent was always working so I didn't have much chance to communicate in Korean, I can hold a basic conversation but nothing too complex. Aside from speaking the little korean at home, I spoke English everywhere else.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend who said he didn't know a word of english until he started school. Once school started, his Korean went downhill. The older you get, the less and less time you spend at home. And by the time you get to high school and university you spend maybe a few weekends in the whole year at home speaking to Korean speakers.

Also another factor is where they grew up and the generation gap. The ones who grew up before the 90's had it really tough if they even dared speaking a non-english language in the schoolyard. I've known some guys, in their 40's who said their parents were so worried about their safety that they avoided eating Korean food at home so they would assimilate faster. Also, what happens to guys and girls is different too. Guys generally get physically attacked, while girls get verbally attacked.
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jyoo24



Joined: 10 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the same boat as t1m1ty. Smile
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

exit86 wrote:
Just out of curiousity, how is it that most of the above posters
of Korean ethnicity didn't pick up sufficient communicative skills in your
parents' primary language? Was Korean spoken at home and the dominant language outside this setting? Did your parents try to educate you in their ethnic language?
(I ask because I have been teaching my daughter English in the home
while we all speak Korean outside of the home here in Korea. My situation is probably the exact opposite of that of your parents with you all in your respective
countries. My linguistics books all agree upon this approach which my wife and I have employed; but it seems some posters here have experienced differing results.)

Thanks!



It's probably easier trying to retain a language like english. Most places in the world are bombarded with english, even though some phrases may seem unusual.

For the American born Kyopos, they speak english to their siblings and friends and *might* speak Korean to their parents. They might have gotten an hour of formal Korean classroom instruction a week, taught by volunteer ethnic Korean in the closest major city, if even that. Trying to retain a smaller less common language like Korean is a lot more difficult than say English or Chinese. Especially if growing up in some rural town where you are part of the only ethnic Korean family for hours.
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