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Working with an F-4 Visa?

 
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Jun Lee



Joined: 20 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Working with an F-4 Visa? Reply with quote

What are the bare minimum requirements for teaching ESL for an F-4 Visa holder? I'm currently working on my BA in Business Admin with English/ESL coursework and I am looking to move back to SK with some family.

I'm guessing there are no requirements at all to teach privates, other than the usual teaching/language skills, but what about public/private schools? Do they still require a BA/BS degree for F-4 visa holders?
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just another day



Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F-4 Visa means you have all the rights of a Korean citizen, except for the ability to vote.

Lots of kyopos teach during the summer break and a semester abroad while they are attending college in the states.
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Jun Lee



Joined: 20 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still don't fully understand the difference between a kyopo and a gyopo, or which one I am heh, but I'll look into that later. I'm basically a half Korean half Caucasian 23 year old male. My family will be moving back to S. Korea and I might not be able to fully complete my Bachelor's Degree program before they head out. I was considering moving to SK temporarily and save up a decent amount of funds to possibly come back to California to finish my college coursework.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The difference between kyopo and gyopo is the spelling when it's romanized. One has a K, the other has a G. Nothing else.

In Korean, it's one letter, ㄱ. That letter is sometimes written as a K, sometimes as a G.
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jellobean



Joined: 14 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I understand you can move back and teach until you save up enough money.... A Gyopo(Kyopo) friend of mine was teaching here and making close to 3.0 per month without a BA (still doesn't have one) and her first language was Spanish.... It's about finding a school that will hire you.... Korean's who teach at English hagwons don't necessarily have degrees.... Also, the more western you look the easier it will be, but she was 100% Korean so it really doesn't matter..... The legalities as to privates are sketchier, however, I know F-4s are less likely to get booted....
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Jun Lee



Joined: 20 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jellobean wrote:
From what I understand you can move back and teach until you save up enough money.... A Gyopo(Kyopo) friend of mine was teaching here and making close to 3.0 per month without a BA (still doesn't have one) and her first language was Spanish.... It's about finding a school that will hire you.... Korean's who teach at English hagwons don't necessarily have degrees.... Also, the more western you look the easier it will be, but she was 100% Korean so it really doesn't matter..... The legalities as to privates are sketchier, however, I know F-4s are less likely to get booted....


Thanks, nice to know that the option is available. I look probably 80% white 20% Korean, so that shouldn't be too much of a problem. What I really need to do is learn how to speak Korean haha Sad only learned a few phrases from all my trips to koreatown in L.A. and my mother didn't think I'd ever need to speak Korean.
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T-dot



Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teaching at a hagwon without a degree is still illegal; this applies to everybody.

Im pretty sure the hagwons that hire korean teachers without a degree also dont declare them as a "teacher" to the education board or wherever they have to report teachers to.

Most of the korean teachers I've worked with had degrees. The few that didnt have 1 were a) hired to clean up after the kids b) were the first 1's fired or
c) were often looked down upon for not having a degree.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just another day wrote:
F-4 Visa means you have all the rights of a Korean citizen, except for the ability to vote.


I wish someone would tell Korean banks and businesses that.
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