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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: 2.2 for PhD!!! Reply with quote

This is an ad for Chungnam University in Daejeon. 2.2 for a PhD. 1.7 for a MA in English!!! Wow!!!! That is not a lot of money for sure.

Position Opening

Department of English at Chungnam National University is looking for a full-time instructor as follows:

1. Qualifications
-a native English speaker
-a PhD (preferably in Humanities) or an MA in English

2. Salary
-starting from \2,200,000 or higher depending upon teaching experiences for a PhD or from \1,700,000 or higher for an MA
-Will be raised at a certain rate every year until the completion of the contract

3. Teaching Duties and Courses
-12 hours per week
-English Conversation, Composition for English majors
-Might include English major courses (literature or linguistics) when they are available and when the successful applicant wants to teach
-*no teaching obligation during summer and winter vacations (but can have opportunities to teach for extra income during the vacation)

4. Benefits
-severance pay upon completion of the contract
-medical insurance and national pension 50%
-vacation: officially 20 days during the contract period (See above No. 3*)
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is very low. Will they get anyone with a genuine degree?
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The average annual salary for a Korean professor in the Humanities is
69,070,000 won (that is about 5,755,800 won per month).
http://know.work.go.kr/know/sub4/result_0.asp?search_code=04111&search_name=인문계열교수

Salary Info, Rank, Ed. Workers: 2,920,000 won/month
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=87469

The annual salary of first-year professors ranged from 17 million won at Cheju National University to 43 million won at Sungkyunkwan University.
by Kang Min-seok, JoongAng Daily (September 23, 2001)
link is old (out of date)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200109/23/200109232313052859900090409041.html

Foreign scholars merit equal status
Quote:
... foreign professors... do most of the heavy lifting in terms of course loads, devoting themselves almost exclusively to teaching. Nevertheless, they tend to be treated as hired hands, without academic standing, and lacking the possibility of career advancement or tenure. They must submit to yearly contracts (compensated at a rate only 60 percent of their Korean peers) while walled off from the permanent Korean faculty who benefit from travel, research funding, sabbaticals, etc. Moreover, when hundreds of Korean scholars enjoy such perks at American and other foreign universities, something is obviously amiss.

John B. Kotch, JoongAng Ilbo (June 14, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=1904927

Foreigners Fight Bias
No Foreigners Allowed: Nationality Discrimination Legal in Korea
By Christopher Carpenter and Jane Han
Korea Times (December 12, 2006)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/news_view.asp?newsIdx=3033479
Image URL
http://photo.hankooki.com/newsphoto/2006/12/12/ensor200612122018471nofor3.jpg

Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
by Jae-Dong Yu and Soo-Jung Shin, Donga.com (July 4, 2004)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that anyone with a MA, let along a Ph.D, would have better sense than to teach in korea....especially with the salary being offered.
They would have to be desperate for money I think and graduated in last place.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:
I think that anyone with a MA, let along a Ph.D, would have better sense than to teach in korea....especially with the salary being offered.
They would have to be desperate for money I think and graduated in last place.


The pay for and MA is better. Lots are here due to easy work environment, easy money, long vacations, Korean women (semi-joking here), the ability to escape corporate-like culture and education systems, the opportunity to travel and an easy get away before settling down or continuing their education.

But none would take 2.2 for PhD. In Daejeon, especially.
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tigerbluekitty



Joined: 19 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

F-ing unbelievable. I know a professor with an MA making 3.0 mil a month teaching 7 hours a week! This must be a joke to piss off foreigners.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The biggest joke about this isn't the salary; it's the vacation time. Put the two together though and you have a really sad joke.
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FistFace



Joined: 24 Mar 2007
Location: Peekaboo! I can see you! And I know what you do!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geesh, my buddy has a BA and his uni is paying 2.5 base + OT with 4+ months of vacation. Not the best gig, but not bad, either.

It seems that working for many of the SKY unis ain't what it used to be, and is hardly worth bragging about these days, either. Sure, there are those who make 3.0+ with an MA, but the days of those jobs are definitely numbered, and shrinking fast. Another guy I know is in that situation, but they have weekly meetings up the ying-yang.

From what I can see, it's all equalizing.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone needs a body and didn't budget for it, I suspect.
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