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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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 Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: playing sports with koreans |
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I play a certain sport and Im pretty good. I kept beating most of the Koreans. There is a very big event coming, and the organization boss decided, "Foriegners can be involved and attend, but not compete or win money." There was some debate about what this meant -- "can be involved and attend and not compete or win money" -- and to elaborate, I'd have to reveal too much for this forum.
Anyway, has anyone else had problems with being excluded from sports here in Korea because you're a foreigner?
And to provide a comparison, I've done my sport in China, Japan, and Taiwan without anything remotely similar happening.
My theory is that its not about the money. Koreans are hung up on thier nationalistic insecurity and just cant stand to lose to non-koreans... you see it all the time when you watch their sports on TV (Ohno and speedskating, the accusations of poor officiating at soccer world cup, etc etc)
God, cant wait til November when I can leave this pathetic group of people and thier pathetic country for good.... |
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toddswift
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: playing sports with koreans |
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| pest2 wrote: |
I play a certain sport and Im pretty good. I kept beating most of the Koreans. There is a very big event coming, and the organization boss decided, "Foriegners can be involved and attend, but not compete or win money." There was some debate about what this meant -- "can be involved and attend and not compete or win money" -- and to elaborate, I'd have to reveal too much for this forum.
Anyway, has anyone else had problems with being excluded from sports here in Korea because you're a foreigner?
And to provide a comparison, I've done my sport in China, Japan, and Taiwan without anything remotely similar happening.
My theory is that its not about the money. Koreans are hung up on thier nationalistic insecurity and just cant stand to lose to non-koreans... you see it all the time when you watch their sports on TV (Ohno and speedskating, the accusations of poor officiating at soccer world cup, etc etc)
God, cant wait til November when I can leave this pathetic group of people and thier pathetic country for good.... |
what is your sport........ when I practiced kick boxing at my gym in korea I had a few guys crying because they said I kicked too hard. Go figure. |
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dutchy pink
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, what sport?
Anyway, I play basketball in the park sometimes. It is the worst display of a "pick up" game I have ever seen.
They play to about 25, which takes an hour a game with 20 people waiting. And the winner doesn't stay on the court. After the game, 2 new teams play. It elimanates any aspect of competion. Obviously, you want to win so you can play again. Why try to score if it only gets you closer to sitting on the sidelines.
And as a foriegner, they seem to be amazed I can dribble, and all stand aside when i have the ball.
I tried to suggest the idea of the winning team staying on the court, but everybody was too in awe of my you speak korean good abilities, that i might as well have been suggesting a kool aid party for anyone to take it seriously.
sports, competion, korea, I don't know what's up here. |
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whatever
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| ...Sounds like my soccer team. They insist that I play forward positions, even though I'm naturally inclined to play defense. Any time I express my desire to play a preferred position, they collectively give me the choice of playing where they want or not at all. |
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Dukey77777
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Location: Chungcheongbuk-do
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I can't wait to start playing basketball and soccer when I get to Jecheon....I just hope there are some foreigners around or at least some Koreans that play. |
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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: playing sports with koreans |
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| toddswift wrote: |
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what is your sport........ when I practiced kick boxing at my gym in korea I had a few guys crying because they said I kicked too hard. Go figure. |
Well, I cant say, exactly... because you might say I am "at war" with the sports organization in question. I wouldnt want my writing here to be taken out of context and used against me later somehow.
What I can say is that its not a team sport, really. And its not a sport Koreans are know for being good at. It seems to me like a sport that they would want to be opened up to nonkoreans because it looks like they dont know how to play it very well due to lack of native insight... When this sport first came to my home country many years ago, we WANTED foreigner to come and play because it was a way to learn about it and get better. But, Korea is not the land of easily changed or new ideas and it is the land of lost face over national insecurity... |
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huck
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Synchronized pairs swimming? |
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dutchy pink
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Huck, you funny bastard..
i was gonna say, men's pairs , synchronized swimming.
Why the big secret? |
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HapKi
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| paintball is not a sport |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:50 am Post subject: |
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My mate was invited to a game of soccer with his korean workmates.
After 45 minutes of running up and down the field they had not passed the ball to him once...  |
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PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Koreans tend to be not very accepting on the outside.
But once they do accept you, they can be the best friends you'll ever have. Finding the way to be "welcomed" isn't easy though. |
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DaeguKid
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:00 am Post subject: |
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Koreans are knob ends when they run a team or sport IMO. I played hockey with a Korean team. They Reans on the team are nice and all, but when it came to management and the decisions they make, CLUELESS!
A rather serious drama came up a few months ago, and pretty much most the foriengers told the team to go screw themselves. But it was not the Koreans as a whole, but the manager and his ego. Guy is a pr!ck.
The thing is, I don't know alot about hockey, I just took the game up a year ago, but other guys with loads of experience on the team tried to give suggestions or advice and it got blown off! It irks me that these idiots don't want to learn more and get better....their egos are horrible. I mean, if I had a TaeKwonDo studio in my home country, I would want as many K-kids in the class to raise the bar, but as well teach others about how to make themselves better players....
Koreans and their egos are horrible. I am damn surprised they hired Hedink here years back to coach their footy team. I can only imagine the egos that had to be put aside to get those boys to do anything he said.
To the OP, don't bother showing up at your event. If they won't treat you equal, don't let them use you as a pawn. Good luck in your choices
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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:42 am Post subject: |
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To the OP, don't bother showing up at your event. If they won't treat you equal, don't let them use you as a pawn. Good luck in your choices
DK |
Yeah, dont plan on it. As soon as the "outcome" is final, I'll post about it on this forum and actually there is a way every foreigner in Korea can protest this kind of unfair treatment. Just wait a little while.... |
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dutchy pink
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: |
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pest, no offense, but nobody is gonna protest your little sport outrage...
As my first bet of non-protesters, I vote you. C'mon, what are you really gonna do? You won't even mention the name of the sport. Doesn/t sound like someone who'll stand up to the gone. Please. let's be serious here. protest. sheesh |
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Homer
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| Anyway, has anyone else had problems with being excluded from sports here in Korea because you're a foreigner? |
Not with the sports I participate in no.
I play Football (soccer) on weekends with a mixed crew: Koreans and Foreigners and we always have a game going on. Played a bit of baseball for a while and even some hockey (that was fun!).
We get along fine and have had no "ego" problems like the ones Daegukid mentionned. Then again...ego is something that works in pairs...one may have it but usually he or she needs someone else to insult it before it comes into play.... |
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