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[Alyallen]

Obviously in the grand scheme of things this may not be a big deal but for all the talk about how we Americans are all past color this sort of crap still happens. It's a nice story and I wish them all the best but it's another example of how we as a nation need to clean house before getting on a soapbox about other nations...

And to clarify, no I am not talking about ALL Americans or any particular ethnicity or gender. This is more a reflection of my own general annoyance at this sort of thing and my own personal stake in it....

Ian Johnson, cheerleader get hitched
Sun Jul 29, 11:33 PM ET

BOISE, Idaho - Before Boise State running back Ian Johnson married the girl he proposed to on national television, the couple prayed to end prejudice.

Johnson and Chrissy Popadics, the cheerleader he proposed to after scoring the winning points in the Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma, were married Saturday in a traditional ceremony at Cathedral of the Rockies First United Methodist Church.

Johnson, who is black, has said he received phone calls and about 30 letters, including personal threats from people who objected to his plans to marry his white fiancee. Johnson has not described the threats, and it is unclear where they came from.

The ceremony began with the prayer and ended with the couple jumping over a broom � an African tradition signifying the couple jumping into a new life together.

As they drove away in a stretch limousine, Johnson kissed his new wife and said, "Let's play ball," the Idaho Statesman reported.

Johnson ran for a 2-point conversion on a "Statue of Liberty" to give the underdog Broncos a 43-42 overtime win over Oklahoma on Jan. 1 in Glendale, Ariz. Boise State finished the season 13-0 and No. 5 in the AP Top 25.

[Woland]

I'm afraid that there will always be stupid people everywhere. Against stupidity...

The good news in this is that they were so few, and that most people's responses at the time of the proposal and up to today, have been overwhelmingly positive. Consider the difference today from 40 years ago. This is, of course, the cheap argument of progress, always advancing halfway, never quite reaching the goal.

But you are right - it only takes one ass to ruin the party.

[Gopher]

A few telephone calls and about thirty hate-letters, huh? And in a rather backward part of the country known for white-supremacist thinking. Nice, middleAmerican sample. And what is 30 out of 300 million, by the way?

[Don Gately]

Anyone who can watch that play and subsequent proposal without being inspired is beyond redemption as a human being. To then reduce it to the fact that the couple is interracial is nothing short of evil. It's pathetic. I hope those kids live to be 100 and have 85 grandkids. We need a storybook ending in real life every now and again.

[Tony_Balony]

Ho hum - unprogessive thinking from the self proclaimed progressive crowd. ho hum. Is that all of the analysis you have done?
Mixed marriages may or may not be bad but they have a bad effect on the human psyche and morale.

I understand you want to compartmentalized the event, this helps your argument. The wheels come off when you look at the trend and even more so consider the peacock effect.

Humans have a long established behavior on sexual attraction. Women choose bigger darker, men choose lighter smaller. This cuts right across race lines. Not every relationship is mixed, in fact its the other way. These relationship are in the vast minority. However, as long as that viral thought exists and infects it simply persists in perpetuity. In the
unattractive groups, these people maintain a vast amout of hurt and insecurity that manifests itself in ugly ways. Even with the attractive crowd there are problems.

Who are the attractive ones? Black men and Asian women. The unattractive ones? Black women and Asian men. There are more confounders, but generally, thats the rule. The latter group are left with a resevoir off ill feelings. The former group develops problems as well.

Its unfortunante this discussion will get sneered at but I do have the numbers on my side as well as the sex advice people and human behaviorists as well. I have all the evidence.

Please remember we can discuss there two people but eventually we have to talk about the rest of us at the aggregate level. There we have major problems.

If you want peace between people, you need to turn this off. The few couples in this area will be out of luck but he morale and mental health of the hundreds of millions of left behinds will improve. This is refered to as the "Will Smith Non Theatening Negro Effect". I'm a White male and I don't want to think what Asian men have in store for me.

[Gopher]

[Tony_Balony]

[just another day]

what makes it even weirder is that african americans had to take the same surnames of their slave owners. so technically, they are in the same family.

the entire thing is strange.

[Gopher]

[bignate]

I have no idea why this is even an issue..........

[Alyallen]

[Gopher]

I hear you. I understand why it would be significant for you, Alyallen. I consider it significant, too. It is disappointing.

But this...

[Adventurer]

How would the reception be say in other Western countries if someone was marrying in a high profile interracial marriage? Didn't someone from the Rolling Stones date or marry a black woman? I believe a German tennis player had a hard time being married to a black woman. Did the Rolling Stones musician receive threats? Of course, America has a population of 300 million. In some parts of the West and the South people only integrated 30 years ago. In Atlanta there was a prom that was segregated until recently. Undoing decades of prejudice in Jim Crow areas is tough. Anyway, so many black people also get upset if they see a black man with a white woman and some would even disown their daughter if she married a white man. I had a black friend whose parents were so upset with her wanting to marry the white guy she was with... It goes on both sides. Obama has security because he received threats. There is prejudice in the United States and no one thinks it disappeared. People don't really care so much when African Americans and Hispanics drop out en masse and the African American administrators also cover it up to hold on to their jobs.

[Gopher]

[Alyallen]