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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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 Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: Bad news, dopers. |
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Cannabis harm worse than tobacco
A single cannabis joint could damage the lungs as much as smoking up to five tobacco cigarettes one after another, scientists in New Zealand have said.
The research, published in the journal Thorax, found cannabis damaged the large airways in the lungs causing symptoms such as coughing and wheezing.
It also damaged the ability of the lungs to get oxygen to, and remove waste products from tissues.
Experts say the study confirms that the drug represents a serious health risk. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/6922379.stm
Between this and the increased psychosis study it's looking like the new vice of choice isn't as problem free as everyone was assuming. It doesn't negate the ridiculousness of most pot laws, but still...
Maybe folks need to start drinking tea for their buzz? |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I think a joint is more harmful to the lungs than a cigarette as, generally, joints don't have a filter in them. Isn't this old news though? I recall hearing similar claims a few years ago... |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| It's pretty obvious to me. Still safer than alcohol though, which is known to cause a guy to dress up in a nun costume and pick fights with strangers. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Heroin, while addictive and having numerous adverse effects on the chronic user, causes no permanent organ or tissue damage. The belief to the contrary is a common misconception.
Although I am 100% against the prohibition of marijuana, the legalization lobby is full of bogus science and they're often every bit as clueless as the prohibitionists. |
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squat toilet
Joined: 08 Mar 2005
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With my tolerance level where it's at these days, whenever I travel overseas and indulge, 2-3 pulls is all I need before i'm floating in liquid Bo-Bo Land.
A couple hauls is the equivalent of what? 1 cigarette? I can deal with that. |
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4 months left
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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A simple solution to that:
Made some weed butter when I was in Brazil, amazzzzing buzzzzzzz.
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Bad news, dopers. |
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Cannabis harm worse than tobacco
A single cannabis joint could damage the lungs as much as smoking up to five tobacco cigarettes one after another, scientists in New Zealand have said.
The research, published in the journal Thorax, found cannabis damaged the large airways in the lungs causing symptoms such as coughing and wheezing.
It also damaged the ability of the lungs to get oxygen to, and remove waste products from tissues.
Experts say the study confirms that the drug represents a serious health risk. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/6922379.stm
Between this and the increased psychosis study it's looking like the new vice of choice isn't as problem free as everyone was assuming. It doesn't negate the ridiculousness of most pot laws, but still...
Maybe folks need to start drinking tea for their buzz? |
I'm skeptical of studies done by the government, especially in the age of prohibition. One must only look at the US funded studies under Bush about a variety of subjects. |
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beachbumNC
Joined: 30 May 2007
Location: Gumi
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| who cares? grilled red meat gives you cancer too. but it makes you feel good. just like the ganja. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Bad news, dopers. |
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Cannabis harm worse than tobacco
A single cannabis joint could damage the lungs as much as smoking up to five tobacco cigarettes one after another, scientists in New Zealand have said.
The research, published in the journal Thorax, found cannabis damaged the large airways in the lungs causing symptoms such as coughing and wheezing.
It also damaged the ability of the lungs to get oxygen to, and remove waste products from tissues.
Experts say the study confirms that the drug represents a serious health risk. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/6922379.stm
Between this and the increased psychosis study it's looking like the new vice of choice isn't as problem free as everyone was assuming. It doesn't negate the ridiculousness of most pot laws, but still...
Maybe folks need to start drinking tea for their buzz? |
I don't think it's a coincidence that these stories are comming out at the same time.
Yes, both provide useful information, however, there does appear to be a slant to the way each story is reported.
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| However, in this study, people who smoked only cannabis were not found to suffer from emphysema, a serious and crippling lung disease which was previously thought to be linked to the drug. |
And I have also never heard of a case of lung cancer directly liked to marijuana use.
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| "It's important to remember, though, that tobacco continues to be more harmful overall because it is typically smoked in much higher quantities than cannabis." |
If you're a chronic smoker, just purchase a vaporizor. Problems solved. |
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree cannabis has more tar than tobacco. At the same time, cannabis users are not seeking treatment for the alleged effects. |
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wo buxihuan hanguoren
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Location: Suyuskis
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
Heroin, while addictive and having numerous adverse effects on the chronic user, causes no permanent organ or tissue damage. The belief to the contrary is a common misconception.
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This is true, but I doubt anyone here is going to pay any attention to facts like that, judging by the 'quality' of most of the people on this board. |
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genezorm
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: Mokpo
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| this study is lies... weeds is good for you like a kimchi |
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migooknom
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| the best tonic is chronic |
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MollyBloom
Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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I heard this story about a guy who died from natural causes, no heart failure, cancer, or any other funny business. His wofe was talking to the doctor saying how this man as in perfect health: pink lungs, no artery problems. She was shocked because she said this man smoked two packs a day since he was in the army. Turns out they were non-filtered smokes he was pulling. The charcoal in the filters is terrible for you.
Also, my man's brother worked in the ER for a while. He said that 80% of the "lung doctors" ( I have no idea what they are called) smoked non-filtered smokes. This is all heresay, of course.
Irrelevant: I have been smoking Marlboro reds or Parliament Lights since I have been here, because my boyfriend smokes them. I am a Gauloises user, preferably the hand rollies, but since they aren't sold in the US anymore, I stopped smoking them...except when I order them online or go to France. A lot of the Korean smokes, I think, suck. I can deal with Arirangs from time to time. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Thorax is an awesome name for a magazine. It's also a great name for a heavy metal band. Who sings songs about pulmonary health. |
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