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thepeel
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 Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: Gingrich Predicts Clinton-Obama Ticket |
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrats will nominate Hillary Rodham Clinton for president in 2008 and Barack Obama will be her running mate, former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich predicts.
The GOP will have three "formidable" choices in Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson, said Gingrich, who is considering whether to get into the race.
Gingrich is ruling out John McCain's chances among the Republican contenders.
The Arizona senator "has taken positions so deeply at odds with his party's base that I don't see how he can get the nomination," Gingrich said Sunday in a broadcast interview.
(AP) Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., address delegates at the...
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Gingrich said he had dinner recently with Thompson, the former Tennessee senator and actor who has set up a political committee that allows him to raise money for a presidential bid. An official launch is likely in September, after the Labor Day holiday.
Gingrich said he expects Thompson will enter what is shaping up as a competitive race for the GOP nomination against Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, and Giuliani, a former New York City mayor.
"I think that either Mayor Giuliani or Governor Romney or Senator Thompson would be a very formidable opponent for what I expect will be a Clinton-Obama ticket, and I think that there's a possibility that will work," Gingrich said.
In the fall, Gingrich might decide to jump in, depending on how the Republican candidates are faring against Clinton, the New York senator.
"If there is a vacuum and if there's a real need for somebody to be prepared to debate Senator Clinton, then I would consider running. I think we'll know that in October," Gingrich said.
"But these three are serious people," Gingrich said, referring to Romney, Giuliani and Thompson. "They're working very hard. And if they can fill the vacuum, I don't feel any great need to run."
Gingrich spoke on "Fox News Sunday." |
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070729/D8QMAVNO0.html
Makes sense... Running as VP would give Obama a shot at 16 years in the white house (best case). |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| Makes sense... Running as VP would give Obama a shot at 16 years in the white house (best case). |
Nah. To put it bluntly, they need a white male on the ticket. Preferably from the South. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| edwards-obama? that's what my mom is hoping for. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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edwards-obama? that's what my mom is hoping for.
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Yeah, that would be better. Edwards is more liberal, but I don't think he would be perceived as such in quite the way that Hillary would. Given that Hillary is female, and is married to Bill Clinton.
Not that being a women or a relative of Bill Clinton actually makes you left-wing. I'm just trying to put myself in the psychological mindset of an old-fashioned, conservative person. I'd be willing to bet that a lot of those types would view Hillary as more liberal than any male, even if the male actually was to the left of Hillary. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| according to the economist, edwards has the highest ratings amongst potential republican voters. A bit ironic given he is the most left-wing high profile candidate. |
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Alyallen
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Makes sense... Running as VP would give Obama a shot at 16 years in the white house (best case). |
Nah. To put it bluntly, they need a white male on the ticket. |
Obama is half way there.
Ahh....the one drop rule continues... |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Makes sense... Running as VP would give Obama a shot at 16 years in the white house (best case). |
Nah. To put it bluntly, they need a white male on the ticket. |
Obama is half way there.
Ahh....the one drop rule continues... |
I don't think the race factor is the main thing. Obama is more popular than Edwards. You seem to forget that. I would vote for Obama if Hillary wasn't also married to Bill Clinton who would be helping her out.
Hillary has a lot of experience. If Hillary wasn't there, I would definitely vote for a guy like Obama. I can relate to him. I would like to see him as VP and then president. Frankly, I like Obama's fiery spirit, his class, and his strong spirit. For a guy with limited experience, he is awesome.
I want to see him stay in politics. America with a president like Obama would have a smart man in office.. I really like hearing Obama speak.
Edwards is also good. I think it would be good to see a democratic president. We saw that the democrats can't do much with the a Republican president. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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A Clinton-Obama '08 ticket would be perfect...for conservatives. They could run against liberals, women, blacks, all other minorities and Bill Clinton all in one swoop. For minds that don't deal well with complexity, it would be a god-send.
On the other hand, Liberals could see it as a 'final' victory in the social revolution of the last 50 years. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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So, all conservatives are racists/misogynists?
I think the people who won't vote for a woman or a black aren't going to vote for a white democrat either. The "swing voters" aren't racist. IMO. |
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Alyallen
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Alyallen wrote: |
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| Makes sense... Running as VP would give Obama a shot at 16 years in the white house (best case). |
Nah. To put it bluntly, they need a white male on the ticket. |
Obama is half way there.
Ahh....the one drop rule continues... |
I don't think the race factor is the main thing. Obama is more popular than Edwards. You seem to forget that. I would vote for Obama if Hillary wasn't also married to Bill Clinton who would be helping her out.
Hillary has a lot of experience. If Hillary wasn't there, I would definitely vote for a guy like Obama. I can relate to him. I would like to see him as VP and then president. Frankly, I like Obama's fiery spirit, his class, and his strong spirit. For a guy with limited experience, he is awesome.
I want to see him stay in politics. America with a president like Obama would have a smart man in office.. I really like hearing Obama speak.
Edwards is also good. I think it would be good to see a democratic president. We saw that the democrats can't do much with the a Republican president. |
What you said was all well and good but I was simply responding to the person I quoted.... |
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Tiger Beer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Thinking of a Clinton-Obama ticket is an exciting one.
I'm not much into Hiliary...but the way Bush brought nearly everyone with him from his dad's administration...I do like the idea Hiliary would probably do the exact same thing.
I wonder what Bill's role would be if that were to happen? Would he be called 'the first gentleman'? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:56 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder what Bill's role would be if that were to happen? |
Do you remember right after Bill was first elected? Someone said we were getting two for the price of one. Even many supporters cringed. The Constitution does not provide for a dual presidency. Some of the opposition to the health care plan they proposed was because she was the head of the commission.
She was very quickly shuffled into much more traditional First Lady activities by the image people.
Eventually there will be a husband who has to figure out what to be called and what to do. It will be entertaining (but not all that important) what he decides to be called and how he spends his time.
With Bill's background, I doubt Hillary is anxious to send him off to the First Lady tea parties...too much temptation there. |
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Woland
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:58 am Post subject: |
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I think that whichever Democrat gets the nomination would be foolish not to consider Richardson first for VP. He's hispanic, a westerner (an area where the party has been weak, but showed potential in recent years), a successful governor of a (small) swing state, and someone with extensive international experience. I think whoever the Dems choose would be made stronger by Richardson as VP.
Tiger Beer, Bush ignored people from his father's administration and largely brought in people from the Ford years - Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. That was their formation, and what has hardened their (especially Cheney's) resistance to what they see as restriction of the executive.
EDIT: And the people are with me (from Nick Kristof's column in the NYTimes today:
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Right now the pundit with perhaps the most outstanding record thinks Hillary Rodham Clinton has the best chance of becoming president, with Bill Richardson enjoying the best shot of becoming vice president.
That pundit is not a human but rather Intrade, a political betting Web site (www.intrade.com) that has regularly proven more accurate than polls and political experts alike. In the last presidential election, it called the winner accurately in each of the 50 states.
That�s a tribute to what is called �the wisdom of crowds,� the notion that the collective judgment of many people is typically more accurate than the judgment of even a very well-informed individual. If you collect a bunch of guesses about, say, the weight of an ox, the average estimate will be eerily accurate.
For the record, Intrade�s bets at this very early stage give Mrs. Clinton a 27 percent chance of becoming president, followed by Barack Obama and Rudy Guiliani, each at about 20 percent; Fred Thompson, 15 percent; and Mitt Romney, 8 percent. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| So, all conservatives are racists/misogynists? |
You don't have to wear the shoe if it doesn't fit.
I think my boy Al and Richardson would be a terrific ticket. |
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Ryst Helmut
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| . I would vote for Obama if Hillary wasn't also married to Bill Clinton who would be helping her out. |
Exactly. America does not need 2 presidents.
!shoosh,
Ryst |
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