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| Which poster would be the most dangerous to the enemies of the US? |
| sundubuman |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee |
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13% |
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| On the other hand |
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| Big Bird |
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13% |
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| mithridates |
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| Adventurer |
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| Gopher |
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| mindmetoo |
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| BJWD |
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| stevemcgarrett |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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 Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: Which poster would be most dangerous to the enemy? |
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As Mith said:
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| As president of a country for example. Just went over the CE board and picked some of the most frequent posters for the poll. Only up to ten can be chosen for a poll otherwise I would have put about four more in. |
This is the flip side of of Mith's question and it also ought to be asked.
I hope everyone who participated in the last poll would participate here, but I would expect more than a few of them will not want to answer.
It seems that more than a few think being dangerous to the enemy is the same as being dangerous.
By the way people were very open on the last thread about who they voted for and why they voted for them. However on this thread they don't say so? Why is that?
For the record I voted for stevemcgarrett. Gopher is a good choice too.
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Enemy? Hmmm.
Do you mean Dick Cheney, the man who has done the most to destroy constitutional freedoms in the US over the past 6+ years?
I wouldn't be voting for you, in that case. (And wasn't that what this thread was about?) |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Enemy? Hmmm.
Do you mean Dick Cheney, the man who has done the most to destroy constitutional freedoms in the US over the past 6+ years?
I wouldn't be voting for you, in that case. (And wasn't that what this thread was about?)
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Ah
another moonbat who thinks Cheney is more dangerous than Al Qaeda. 
And what do you know he is also a libertarian. 
By the way if you are so upset about Consitutional freedoms then why do you work in Korea whose national security law is far tougher than the US patriot act.
Even with the Patriot act the US is one of the most free and tolerant nations in the world.
Why don't you give a write in Candidate?
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Since you're running for office:
Would support genocide in order to pacify the culture-threatening enemies you feel exist since they're made of, and supported by, civilian populations? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:13 am Post subject: |
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[quote="twg"]Since you're running for office:
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| Joo, would support genocide in order to pacify the culture-threatening enemies you feel exist since they're made of, and supported by, civilian populations? |
No. I would do my best to kill the leaders of those nations and the elites though.
Any one who calls for holy war against the US is a fair target for assassination.
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| Personally, I'm going to refrain from voting because it's like trying to decide which Pinochet wannabe you want running the show. |
Right by not voting you are showing that you think the US ought to accept / tolerate a certain level of war against it. That seems that is exactly your postion. Thanks for the info
Being an enemy of the Bathists , the Khomeni followers and the Al Qaedists = being a Pinochet wannabe?
Again thanks for the info.
You TWG seem to think that being dangerous to the enemy is dangerous. Thanks again (for the third time) for the info.
Why don't you give in a write in candidate? Cause then you would have to explain why.
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:24 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee"]
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Since you're running for office:
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| Joo, would support genocide in order to pacify the culture-threatening enemies you feel exist since they're made of, and supported by, civilian populations? |
No. I would do my best to kill the leaders of those nations though. |
Saddam is dead Joo. Why are the people in Iraq still trying to kill Americans, Joo?
Musharraf is friendly to the US, Joo. But his nation plays host to a lot of the people who want to kill Americans. Will killing him work?
Osama is not the leader of a nation.
Joo, you seem to be willing to do anything to stop the people who wish harm on America. Those people are civilians Joo.
Joo, to reach your goals, YOU MUST KILL A LARGE NUMBER OF CIVILIANS.
Joo, will you do it? If not, you make a lie of your convictions. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee"]
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Since you're running for office:
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| Joo, would support genocide in order to pacify the culture-threatening enemies you feel exist since they're made of, and supported by, civilian populations? |
No. I would do my best to kill the leaders of those nations though. |
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| Saddam is dead Joo. Why are the people in Iraq still trying to kill Americans, Joo? |
1. Mostly cause many of Sunnis 20% of the population want to control Iraq like they did when Saddam was in power.
2. Cause the the Al Qaeda fighters there want the Caliphate.
3. Cause Sadr's supporters want a Khomeni style goverment.
Most Iraqi are glad the US got rid of Saddam . I mean do you think the Kurds 20% of the population aren't glad the US took down Saddam ?
Do you think the Shia 60% of the Iraqi population aren't glad the US took down Saddam?
I don't ask for many favors but I would ask that you check the demographics of Iraq.
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| Musharraf is friendly to the US, Joo. But his nation plays host to a lot of the people who want to kill Americans. Will killing him work? |
No , each case is different. In fact Musharraf is a friend of the US. but in that cause the US ought to try to get Al Qaeda people who hide in Pakistan when they can and also the US to start assassinating the clerics in Pakistan that support Al Qaeda and call for holy war against the US.
Would killing them work. It might. Israel did lots of damage to the military capablities of Hamas with targeted killings. Targeted killings work.
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| Osama is not the leader of a nation. |
No, but he is the leader of a movement.
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| Joo, you seem to be willing to do anything to stop the people who wish harm on America. Those people are civilians Joo. |
When you kill those who fund Al Qaeda , or call for holy war they are no longer just civilians.
For the record you seem to willing to allow virtually nothing to stop the people who wish harm on the US.
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| Joo, to reach your goals, YOU MUST KILL A LARGE NUMBER OF CIVILIANS. |
I don't think so .
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| Joo, will you do it? If not, you make a lie of your convictions. |
No I would not.
and I would not make a lie of my convicitions either.
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Fighting terror
The US ought to first lift the presidental ban on assassination.
Next Indemnify the CIA from criminal prosecution when they go after terrorists overseas.
Try killing the leaders of nations who support terror (and who support it themselves ) or the elites who support the terrorist. Often leaders and elites care about their own lives and when they feel threatened they do stuff to get rid of those in their own nations who are a problem.
Those who call for holy war against the US , incite violence against the US or those who give large sums of money to Al Qaeda are not "just civilians".
New Policy anyone who calls for a holy war against the US is themselves a legitimate target for assassination.
Go after those who support Al Qaeda or Hizzbollah with targeted killings.
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What I think the US ought to do in Iraq.
Many propose solutions to what is going on in Iraq. Some say withdraw, some say divide Iraq up into a loose confederation. and the administration says "stay the course". Perhaps the best solution is a hybrid model of three solutions. One The US ought to withdraw from Iraq but not to the US but to Kurdistan. From there Iraq ought to be broken up into a loose confederation, Once US forces are in the Kurdish areas the US ought to " stay the course".
The only country that the US would need the approval of is Turkey.
To control Iran the US ought to keep 10,000 US troops in Kuwait at the same time.
This way the US would have a big military base in the mideast. The US would have a new muslim ally.
The US have some forces to control Iran.
The US would not be subjected to guerrilla attacks by the insurgents.
The US could help the Kurds build up a democracy. and help them beef up their military power. The US could this way get a similar outcome from the Iraq war as they got from the Korean war. |
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Dealing with Iranian nuclear weapons.
Nuclear weapons and high oil prices could very lead to a far more aggressive and emboldened Iran. Good for the US ? No.
If Iran is developing nuclear weapons the US has two options one is to destroy them with the best military option the US can come up with . However after thinking about about there seems to be another course in which things still turn out very good for the US and where Iran ends up being a lot weaker than they are now.
There are several actions over the next few years the US can undertake in order to change the strategic balance back in the US favor.
There are three things I can think of right away
1) Alternative Energy � If you bring down the price of oil you weaken the Iranian regime. Nuff said.
2)Space weapons. The US should make a massive investement in space weapons particularly RFG which will negate any strategic advantage that Iran gets from nukes. With RFG the US will be able to have a non nuclear means to destroy Iran�s nuclear program and their missiles - any time, any place, for any reason.
The US ought to match Iran. and turn Iran's new strength into a liability.
Iran goes for nuclear weapons to change the balance of power. Then the
The US ought to go for space weapons to reset the balance of power back to the way that is good for the US.
Iran's nuclear program would no longer be a strategic asset - but instead a hostage.
If Iran does another strike against the US like they did at Khobar then they they loose their nuclear program.
Iran can have nuclear weapons but they can not be allow to have the strategic advantages of possessing them. |
So there.
I have been clear about what I think the US ought to do.
Now you tell us all what the US ought to do? Nothing? accept a low level war against it?
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| Joo, you seem to be willing to do anything to stop the people who wish harm on America.. |
thanks for the plug. 
If that isn't a vote I don't know what is. You just answered the poll question - honestly this time . Thanks
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Keep on making up new enemies as you go along, folks, and you can't go wrong.  |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| Keep on making up new enemies as you go along, folks, and you can't go wrong. |
MOS welcome.
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Al-Qaeda camps 'trained 70,000'
Thousands are said to have joined al-Qaeda camps in Afghanistan
Some 70,000 people received weapons training and religious instruction in al-Qaeda camps, German police say. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4146969.stm
This was during the 1990s. While the US was protecting MUSLIMS IN Kosvo from Slobidan and protecting MUSLIM kurds in Iraq from Saddam. And trying to save MUSLIMS in Somalia from starvation.
and this was while the US was trying to bring the Israeli and the Palestinian sides together.
Here is the reality.
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| As usual in the Arab world, everyone knew what was happening and no one said a thing. The British and American pilots flying the pointless southern "no-fly" zone � allegedly to protect Iraq's minorities � could clearly see the receding waters of the Marsh. The Arab regimes remained silent. Neither Mubarak nor Arafat nor Assad nor Fahd uttered the mildest word of criticism, any more than they did when the Kurds were gassed. |
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0519-02.htm
Robert Fisk
By the way what relgion were the people of the Northern alliance who Al Qaeda was killing inh the 1990's. ? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Me.
No sideshows, distractions, or wasting resources and political capital like Iraq. No holding back. No mercy. And no remorse: I make war like Colonel Kurtz. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I'd be useless.
The worst they would get would be the hurt feelings after having their PJ wearing, bearded arses tossed back to Saudi without warning.
As a side, my way would also be the most effective. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry, Joo, you'd do well, but I have to vote for the former marine. Semper Fidelis, Marines are Cuh-rah-zee. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: ... |
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Big Bird.
She spends more time on this board trying to talk nationalists out of nationalism than any of the other candidates, except maybe for Gandalf. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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Big Bird.
She spends more time on this board trying to talk nationalists out of nationalism than any of the other candidates, except maybe for Gandalf. |
Yeah, but she's a Hezbollah sympathizer, so she's really not so far from a nationalist herself. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: ... |
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| I haven't been to Hezbollahn, have you? |
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