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Patrique
Joined: 04 Oct 2007
Location: Sajik-dong, Busan
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 Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: Average vacation time? |
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| I'm currently trying to land a job in Korea, calling up recruiters et al. One piece of information I can't seem to find anywhere is the average vacation time one gets. Most of the listings give between ten days and two weeks. Is this in addition to national holidays? How many days off total is normal? |
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enns
Joined: 02 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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10 or 14 days is the norm for your typical hagwon set up. In most schools, these days will not include national holidays(it will stipulate in the contract) and maybe not even the extra days of surrounding national holidays(like chuseok). However, definitely check your contract first and make sure your holidays are clearly stated before you sign.
Also, check the contract if the days off are consecutive and if you get to choose them or your employer does. If it isn't written clearly in your contract, expect to be disappointed when vacation time comes. |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| enns wrote: |
10 or 14 days is the norm for your typical hagwon set up. In most schools, these days will not include national holidays(it will stipulate in the contract) and maybe not even the extra days of surrounding national holidays(like chuseok). However, definitely check your contract first and make sure your holidays are clearly stated before you sign.
Also, check the contract if the days off are consecutive and if you get to choose them or your employer does. If it isn't written clearly in your contract, expect to be disappointed when vacation time comes. |
I'd second this. Ambiguous language in the contract is to be avoided especially when it comes to holidays. Clearly stated.
Try Public schools, my contract says 20 days, but I probably get about 9 weeks in total, all paid. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Dome Vans wrote: |
| Try Public schools, my contract says 20 days, but I probably get about 9 weeks in total, all paid. |
I'd second that about public schools, however 20 days vacation for public schools are unusual unless you have been there a huge amount of time or have some special agreement. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Dome Vans wrote: |
| Try Public schools, my contract says 20 days, but I probably get about 9 weeks in total, all paid. |
I'd second that about public schools, however 20 days vacation for public schools are unusual unless you have been there a huge amount of time or have some special agreement. |
Actually, PUBLIC SCHOOLS give 14 WORKING days - GEPIK standard contract-(not including weekends or national holidays = 1 day short of 3 calendar weeks) as vacation time. If your school has a rural designation you can add 5 more to that for a total of 19 working days (~4 calendar weeks).
The new ETIS / SMOE (Seoul education office) contracts are giving 21 WORKING days (4 calendar weeks + 1 day) per year as standard vacation time.
In addition to that you get an ADDITIONAL 2 calendar weeks of paid holiday + a return ticket to your home country if you re-sign / renew your contract.
That works out to damn near 6 weeks of PAID holiday per year - in blocks of about 2 weeks each. Not bad for an entry level Teaching Assistant position.
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butlerian
Joined: 04 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
That works out to damn near 6 weeks of PAID holiday per year - in blocks of about 2 weeks each. Not bad for an entry level Teaching Assistant position.
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Frankly, I think it's an abuse to call many public teachers teachers here teaching assistants. I know that in the town that I was previously working in, the native-speakers almost always took the lead in the class and generally planned their lessons alone. |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Dome Vans wrote: |
| Try Public schools, my contract says 20 days, but I probably get about 9 weeks in total, all paid. |
I'd second that about public schools, however 20 days vacation for public schools are unusual unless you have been there a huge amount of time or have some special agreement. |
Actually, PUBLIC SCHOOLS give 14 WORKING days - GEPIK standard contract-(not including weekends or national holidays = 1 day short of 3 calendar weeks) as vacation time. If your school has a rural designation you can add 5 more to that for a total of 19 working days (~4 calendar weeks).
The new ETIS / SMOE (Seoul education office) contracts are giving 21 WORKING days (4 calendar weeks + 1 day) per year as standard vacation time.
In addition to that you get an ADDITIONAL 2 calendar weeks of paid holiday + a return ticket to your home country if you re-sign / renew your contract.
That works out to damn near 6 weeks of PAID holiday per year - in blocks of about 2 weeks each. Not bad for an entry level Teaching Assistant position.
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Sorry to point this out, ttompatz.
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Article 14 (Paid Leave)
1.Employee shall be entitled to a vacation period of total of a twenty (20) workdays during the term of the Employment set forth in article 5 hereof. Employees working in a school system shall take the leave up to ten workdays during the summer and winter recess respectively. If the requested vacation period interferes with the smooth work operation, employer/employee vacation dates. |
As I said I get three weeks in the summer and 6 in the winter, all paid. My contract is very good and I am lucky to get this, I know. I'm not expected to go in when there are no students, which I have heard happens in other provinces.
As a first job it is for me, but not as a teaching assistant. I get to plan my own lessons and I don't have to teach from the awful textbooks. I can choose what I want to teach from the same topic, be it vocab etc. It's up to me. But as of yet nobody has interfered with my plans or needs to see them before I teach. Not everybody has this. And I'm really enjoying this arrangement, hopefully long may it continue  |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| Dome Vans wrote: |
Sorry to point this out, ttompatz.
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Article 14 (Paid Leave)
1.Employee shall be entitled to a vacation period of total of a twenty (20) workdays during the term of the Employment set forth in article 5 hereof. Employees working in a school system shall take the leave up to ten workdays during the summer and winter recess respectively. If the requested vacation period interferes with the smooth work operation, employer/employee vacation dates. |
As I said I get three weeks in the summer and 6 in the winter, all paid. My contract is very good and I am lucky to get this, I know. I'm not expected to go in when there are no students, which I have heard happens in other provinces.
As a first job it is for me, but not as a teaching assistant. I get to plan my own lessons and I don't have to teach from the awful textbooks. I can choose what I want to teach from the same topic, be it vocab etc. It's up to me. But as of yet nobody has interfered with my plans or needs to see them before I teach. Not everybody has this. And I'm really enjoying this arrangement, hopefully long may it continue |
No need to appologise. I simply quoted the current standard GEPIK contract (and said so in my post). It is the one that they currently offer on their website (unless it has changed since yesterday). I am aware that there are others out there that are better (GEPIK is about the worst when it comes to vacation time). |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Dome Vans wrote: |
Sorry to point this out, ttompatz.
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Article 14 (Paid Leave)
1.Employee shall be entitled to a vacation period of total of a twenty (20) workdays during the term of the Employment set forth in article 5 hereof. Employees working in a school system shall take the leave up to ten workdays during the summer and winter recess respectively. If the requested vacation period interferes with the smooth work operation, employer/employee vacation dates. |
As I said I get three weeks in the summer and 6 in the winter, all paid. My contract is very good and I am lucky to get this, I know. I'm not expected to go in when there are no students, which I have heard happens in other provinces.
As a first job it is for me, but not as a teaching assistant. I get to plan my own lessons and I don't have to teach from the awful textbooks. I can choose what I want to teach from the same topic, be it vocab etc. It's up to me. But as of yet nobody has interfered with my plans or needs to see them before I teach. Not everybody has this. And I'm really enjoying this arrangement, hopefully long may it continue |
No need to appologise. I simply quoted the current standard GEPIK contract (and said so in my post). It is the one that they currently offer on their website (unless it has changed since yesterday). I am aware that there are others out there that are better (GEPIK is about the worst when it comes to vacation time). |
I do apologise, you do a lot of the best work on the forum so always not too keen to disagree with you. It's not a GEPIK contract and it was signed pre-Sep 07 on the EPIK scheme. SO maybe the terms will change when I re-sign for another year. Will see. Different provinces have their different rules and interpretations of the contract. Mine luckily has this relaxed view.
People call it luck but I looked for a long time and did the research, so in some sense this kind of job would come around to me eventually. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:10 am Post subject: |
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| Glad to hear some of the pubic school contracts are giving more vacation. In Incheon, last I heard it's still 14 working days. Maybe they'll follow suit to what SMOE is doing. |
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