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Condolences for the deceased??

 
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Condolences for the deceased?? Reply with quote

A Korean friend of mine just lost her father to illness. I would like to give her and her family something to express my condolences. What should I give?

I was thinking flowers, but I'm not sure which type of flowers are appropriate.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: Condolences for the deceased?? Reply with quote

The gift is usually money placed in an envelope.

How to offer condolences in Korea
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=42269

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Condolence Money 조의금
Jouigeum (조의금), or "condolence money," is given at funerals. There will be a special box (조의함) at the entrance to the funeral site for you to place an envelope containing jouigeum in. Offer words of condolence to the chief mourner and carefully place the envelope in the box. The amounts given as jouigeum are similar to the money given at weddings. People generally write set expressions of condolence in Chinese characters on the envelope, but a foreigner may wish to write simple words of condolence on a note inside the envelope, and then on the outside write their name and address.

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals#Condolence_Money_.EC.A1.B0.EC.9D.98.EA.B8.88

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... There is no predetermined amount that should be given, but depending on how well you know the individuals getting married and on your own financial circumstances, it is common to give in units of 30,000won, 50,000won, 100,000won.

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals#.27Congratulatory_Money.27_and_Gifts_.EC.B6.95.EC.9D.98.EA.B8.88.EA.B3.BC_.EC.84.A0.EB.AC.BC

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: Re: Condolences for the deceased?? Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
The gift is usually money placed in an envelope.

How to offer condolences in Korea
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=42269

Quote:
Condolence Money 조의금
Jouigeum (조의금), or "condolence money," is given at funerals. There will be a special box (조의함) at the entrance to the funeral site for you to place an envelope containing jouigeum in. Offer words of condolence to the chief mourner and carefully place the envelope in the box. The amounts given as jouigeum are similar to the money given at weddings. People generally write set expressions of condolence in Chinese characters on the envelope, but a foreigner may wish to write simple words of condolence on a note inside the envelope, and then on the outside write their name and address.

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals#Condolence_Money_.EC.A1.B0.EC.9D.98.EA.B8.88

Quote:
... There is no predetermined amount that should be given, but depending on how well you know the individuals getting married and on your own financial circumstances, it is common to give in units of 30,000won, 50,000won, 100,000won.

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals#.27Congratulatory_Money.27_and_Gifts_.EC.B6.95.EC.9D.98.EA.B8.88.EA.B3.BC_.EC.84.A0.EB.AC.BC

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals


I'm sorry, but maybe someone can help me. Did RR just post useful, helpful information???
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newintown



Joined: 01 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think flowers hold the same significance here, i've given them a few times on b/days etc, and they've always been appreciated, but greeted with surprise.
furthermore, they're usually way OTT with gold ribbons, and glitter spray.
i think giving food is also a safe bet - prepare a dish if you can. thats how korean co-workers treated one of the foreign teachers in our school when her grandad died.
or maybe the money is just easier...
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KOREAN_MAN



Joined: 01 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put three, five, or ten mahn-won bills into a clean, white envelope. 30,000 won is okay, but 50,000 is better I suppose. (100,000 if you can afford it.)

Before or after you give the envelope you're supposed to write down your name on the list. Before taking out the envelope, you're supposed to go in and bow twice to the deceased or you can just pray without bowing. After that, you must bow (once) to the people standing on your side.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: Re: Condolences for the deceased?? Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
Real Reality wrote:
The gift is usually money placed in an envelope.

How to offer condolences in Korea
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=42269

Quote:
Condolence Money 조의금
Jouigeum (조의금), or "condolence money," is given at funerals. There will be a special box (조의함) at the entrance to the funeral site for you to place an envelope containing jouigeum in. Offer words of condolence to the chief mourner and carefully place the envelope in the box. The amounts given as jouigeum are similar to the money given at weddings. People generally write set expressions of condolence in Chinese characters on the envelope, but a foreigner may wish to write simple words of condolence on a note inside the envelope, and then on the outside write their name and address.

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals#Condolence_Money_.EC.A1.B0.EC.9D.98.EA.B8.88

Quote:
... There is no predetermined amount that should be given, but depending on how well you know the individuals getting married and on your own financial circumstances, it is common to give in units of 30,000won, 50,000won, 100,000won.

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals#.27Congratulatory_Money.27_and_Gifts_.EC.B6.95.EC.9D.98.EA.B8.88.EA.B3.BC_.EC.84.A0.EB.AC.BC

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals


I'm sorry, but maybe someone can help me. Did RR just post useful, helpful information???


He/She has been absent a lot lately, but RR's history has been full of good info.
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give money?

"Sorry about your loss. Here's 30,000 won."

Confused
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Condolences for the deceased?? Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
laogaiguk wrote:
Real Reality wrote:
The gift is usually money placed in an envelope.

How to offer condolences in Korea
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=42269

Quote:
Condolence Money 조의금
Jouigeum (조의금), or "condolence money," is given at funerals. There will be a special box (조의함) at the entrance to the funeral site for you to place an envelope containing jouigeum in. Offer words of condolence to the chief mourner and carefully place the envelope in the box. The amounts given as jouigeum are similar to the money given at weddings. People generally write set expressions of condolence in Chinese characters on the envelope, but a foreigner may wish to write simple words of condolence on a note inside the envelope, and then on the outside write their name and address.

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals#Condolence_Money_.EC.A1.B0.EC.9D.98.EA.B8.88

Quote:
... There is no predetermined amount that should be given, but depending on how well you know the individuals getting married and on your own financial circumstances, it is common to give in units of 30,000won, 50,000won, 100,000won.

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals#.27Congratulatory_Money.27_and_Gifts_.EC.B6.95.EC.9D.98.EA.B8.88.EA.B3.BC_.EC.84.A0.EB.AC.BC

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Family_rituals


I'm sorry, but maybe someone can help me. Did RR just post useful, helpful information???


He/She has been absent a lot lately, but RR's history has been full of good info.


Not to hijack this thread, but yes: RR's threads are typically filled with useful info & RR's current response is different than standard form (i.e. - no soapbox/rant about the inequities of the foreign teacher).

What caught me offguard as well was that an RR response was helpful and NOT a rant-esque response.

Then again...I've been hangin' with Mr. Dewar this evening...

!shoosh,

Ryst
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, thanks everyone.
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