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yesnoyesyesno
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: meanwhile back in Canada.. |
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a lot of people here think Korea is this horribly racist country which discriminates against foreigners and makes life unbearable to anyone who isn't Korean..
well, read this stuff from people percieved as foreigners in Canada (actually they're Canadian citizens even)
i'm not judging anyone or anything, just reporting what's out there
http://www.canadaimmigrants.com/forum.asp |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| I even went to a Canadian Tavern in Itaewon located up in Seoul and last night that place was full, everybody drinking beer and everything. I saw two white guys walk out of that tavern and I said "Happy Canada Day" to them, but they never responded to me. What sing does that tell you? Simple, white anglo-Canadians are equally as racist as White Anglo-Americans. |
Yup, the fact that people didn't respond to him MUSt mean they're racists!!! 
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| This is no wonder why even a 22 year old white male WASP or Italian is able to buy a house and make more money than a 30 year old black man with a Masters Degree. |
In what freakin' country is this happening? As a white male who got rejected anumber of times for loans back home, I call BS on this.
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| What most Canadians simply can not understand is that the Canadian government invites thousands of highly skilled immigrants to Canada under the false assumption that we and our skills will be used. We did not come to Canada fleeing from war, disease, hunger or political instability. We, professional immigrants, were told by the Canadian government that we would be able to get professional jobs in this country. We were deceived, lied and fooled in a very bad way. |
If so, show a source. I have troubles iamining this to be true. I'd be surprised to see or hear of any immigration officer from Canada promising anything to anybody. Heck, they are so vague, when you file anything they give you a spread of 4-16 weeks. Where does it say that professional immigrants are guaranteed a job in their field?
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| What about people (like me) who studied a masters or even a PhD in Canada and gets treatment worse than a Canadian high school drop out? Yeah, even with a Canadian masters, 7 years of international work experience and 3 languages I had to take orders from Canadian high school drop outs during my last months in the country. |
Someone is angry, and, I suspect, leaving out a number of facts. What type of job employs someone with a Masters and a highschool drop out? Chances are, someting in the service sector... where the Masters counts for nothing.
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| And if you have previously lived for more than six months in a country where obtaining a copy of your criminal record is not something easy (i.e., a bureaucratic country like some - many! - in Europe), do not expect things to move quickly. - "No problem" are you thinking as you read this, "I only lived in the U.S., a very efficient country, I'll get a copy of my criminal record w/o any problem." Well, think twice: I lived in the U.S. before coming to Canada, and if the FBI did find a copy of my (empty) criminal record, they sent it to... an Iranian citizen. So now I have someone in Iran with my SS#, address, fingerprints of all my fingers, date of birth, signature, etc. In Iran, or on the Internet forever. And of course I do not have any recourse against the FBI, as I do not live in the U.S. |
So, this is a complaint about the US?
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| I had the most horrible experience with the Immigration officers in Alberta Airport. On July 14th, I arrived in Canada for a 5 day visit to Lake Louise and Banff. I am an American Citizen ( born in Iran). The initial officers questioned me in a very rude and accusatory manner about why I was coming there alone. I showed her all my hotel bookings and flight information. She then let me go, but later one I was chased by her and taken to the another immigration officer and then the fun begun! I was interrogated, kept in detention. They ran my FBI records and then searched me and my bags. Then the officer told me that since I have had prior criminal conviction in US, I was a criminal and not allowed to enter. They kept me there for 7 hours and then put me back on a plane to US |
Imagine if it was reversed and it was an Iranian born Canadian - would things have been any diferent?
Get a pardon moron.
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| I am aware that local government like here in Manitoba has existing programs to help new and old immigrants successfully settle here in Canada but I know that these programs seems to be inadequate. I've read some of the opinions of immigrants in your "Canadian Immigrant forum" and it clearly indicates that most immigrants are not really satisfied in terms of searching for appropriate job for their qualifications |
Did the Korean government help me get a job here? So you're complaining that the help was not enough? How many other countries offer help like that?
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| I came across the cite "Canada Immigrants" seeking "Professional Compensation." I completed my Advanced Diploma in Manufacturing Engineering Technology in Canada in 2005 and a BS in Mechanical Engineering Technology in the United States in 2006. Being a Canadian Citizen by naturalization, I decided to move to Alberta since last year because of the "Economic Boom" after doing farm work in Ontario for the last six years. But yet as the discrimination continues, I'm having difficulty in getting proper employment till date for being an immigrant and a "black" - double disadvantaged isn't it? and I doubt whether this nation is based on discriminatory practices that I see around. |
So, it must be because this person is black and NOT because they've been working in an unrelated field for the past 6 years.
That site is bunk. In alost every letter it becomes all too obvious what is holding the writer back... and race is not it.
I grew up in Forest Lawn in Calgary... anyone from Calgary knows the place. It's the most multicultural neighborhoods in the city (and one of the poorest). Out of all of my friends, I was the only one that went to university. Yet, they are all making decent money without - regardless of race.
The only letter that was close to being right was - Canada is a country that survives by selling off its resources. A small amount of this money goes to supporting those in need, including immigrants. The job market is like an invisible moving target, and the workplace operates like a high school clique. Merit isn't what counts - it's who you know. (but then the writer goes off the deep end)
That site does not represent all of the minorities/immigrants that live in Canada. |
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Fresh Prince
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| I even went to a Canadian Tavern in Itaewon located up in Seoul and last night that place was full, everybody drinking beer and everything. I saw two white guys walk out of that tavern and I said "Happy Canada Day" to them, but they never responded to me. What sing does that tell you? Simple, white anglo-Canadians are equally as racist as White Anglo-Americans. |
Yes, we all know how racist those White Americans are.  Is that tired anti-American tripe still being swallowed in Canada?
There are some legitimate points being made about the Canadian immigration policy though. Potential immigrants need to accumulate enough points in order to qualify as a skilled worker however it is difficult to get enough points without having an advanced degree.
The complaints are mostly due to people complaining that to immigrate they needed lots of experience and education but that same experience and education is not recognized by Canadian employers so it is difficult to get jobs.
About 4 years ago the pass mark was at 75 which would have been impossible to reach without having an advanced degree and a lot of experience. It's technically possible to get a lot of points for landing a job prior to immigration however in practice that's not very likely unless one happens to have a very in-demand skill such as engineering or something in the IT field. Those people probably have an advanced degree anyway.
Right now it is a lot lower at 67 which makes it possible for someone to get in if they learn English and intermediate French, along with several years of experience in an in-demand field.
Here's the link with the skills test: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/assess/index.asp
Just for fun, anyone interested can take the test and see if you would qualify even if your already a Canadian. Imagine if the pass mark was at 75 like it was in 2004. |
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