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PeterDragon
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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 Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: Getting a civilian job on base? |
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| I'm looking for some extra part time work to line my wallet and keep me out of trouble. Does anyone know if a Statie with a Korean teaching visa is also eligible for a DoD/civilian military job? Has anybody ever done it? |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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I have been wondering for many years about DOD work too since serving in Bosnia for the US Army along side a Brown and Root plumber making $100,000 a year tax free working much fewer hours than I did for only a quarter of that. If you do get in with Uncle Sam or with a contractor, you would have to quit your teaching job upon accepting employment as these are fulltime jobs except the service jobs (i.e. AAFES cashier) often worked by DOD dependents. I meet allot of DOD guys in foreigner bars who are usually older and experienced in specialized career fields who started out in the states years ago, before internet was around back in the day where you looked at bulletin boards in career offices and just called around for interviews. Those were simple days for job hunting. This is what the men tell me when I ask how they got into a DOD career.
www.USAjobs.com is the website for DOD and other US government agency jobs. I applied a great deal after college 2 years ago, but it came off as a very cold job market, possibly, because I was not close enough to interview. I did interview for a few government jobs in St. Louis, MO where I lived though, but the selection process is long and very competitive, even if you have veteran status and professional qualifications.
You might go to foreigner bars and chat with the men sitting at the bar to find out more. This is still my main interest in going to foreign bars as there are well paying careers involving lots of travel to be had if you can get in. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| You are not eligible for part-time work on base. The US military itself cannot sponsor someone other than on a SOFA visa nor can SOFA personnel sponsor employees. |
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HapKi
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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I had a Canadian roommate once who did volunteer work with the Red Cross on Yongsan.
A major part of his job was notifying kin when a family member had died.
He had a base pass and commissary privileges. |
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peter07
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Gwangmyeong
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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I'm no expert on this subject, but I hear getting security clearance is half the battle. If you don't, only sales positions are available. One guy I know taught English for years in Korea, then got a job in Pyeongtaek selling cars.
I also remember back in the mid-90s that my friend knew this Korean-American guy from Seattle. He got a job selling furniture on base. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| HapKi wrote: |
I had a Canadian roommate once who did volunteer work with the Red Cross on Yongsan.
A major part of his job was notifying kin when a family member had died.
He had a base pass and commissary privileges. |
I think you'll find that doesn't fall under the terms of the Status of Forces Agreement. If your former roomie was a full-time member of the Red Cross (such members used to be referred to as "Uniformed members of the American Red Cross") and was sponsored only by the Red Cross to accompany the US Armed Forces in Korea, then he was on a SOFA visa. Such full-time members are not unpaid workers; they're Red Cross employees. If he were here with that status, then he qualified in his own right for base/exchange/commissary access.
The US Armed Forces have Casualty Assistance Calls Officers who perform notification of next of kin in the event of the death of a member of the military. Such CACOs are themselves members of the military and are assigned that duty. Here (PDF) is the United States Navy's CACO program. Please be so kind as to read this part:
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CACO Responsibilities
Notification
� Make personal notification to the casualty�s NOK. |
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The Notification Process
After you have been designated as CACO, your CAC/FHS Program Coordinator will provide a brief of the casualty
occurrence (date, time, place, circumstances and present location of remains).
Contact your local chaplain�s office to arrange for a chaplain to accompany you on the initial notification of the NOK.
It is preferable that a chaplain accompanies you on this visit, but do not delay notification if a chaplain is not readily
available. |
You will notice that the CACO is required to inform the next of kin in person and, if possible, be accompanied by a military Chaplain.
Here's where the Red Cross comes into the program (bolding mine):
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Family Benefits and Entitlements
� Determine the needs of the family and extend assistance.
� Advise the NOK to contact local Red Cross representatives to inform other active duty military relatives of casualty incident.
� Contact Casualty Assistance Division, or regional Coordinator to arrange for payment of Death Gratuity.
� Contact Navy-Marine Corps Relief Society, the American Red Cross, and other service organizations if immediate financial assistance is desired but cannot be arranged by other means.
� Assist in completing benefits applications and in obtaining or photocopying documents (such as birth certificates, marriage license, etc.) necessary to substantiate survivor�s claims.
� Provide proper authorization to the origin Personal Property Office (PPO) for shipment of the household goods.
� Complete shipping documents.
� Establish contact with the Director at the destination PPO and provide delivery instructions. |
and (again, bolding mine):
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CACOs Dos and Don'ts
Do
� Have another Navy member accompany you if a Chaplain isn�t available.
� Inform NOK of type of investigation being conducted.
� Keep your description of circumstances brief and accurate.
� Be prepared for a wide range of reactions, some of which will be very strong.
� Act as liaison between family members who refuse to talk directly to each other about casualty incident.
� As soon as you are appointed, contact mortuary affairs at 1-888-647-6676 and talk to one of the morticians. They
will take you through the briefing and help with any questions you may have. They are all licensed morticians and are
aware of many of the questions the family may
ask you.
� Advise NOK of assistance available from Navy Relief and Red Cross. |
You will see that the Red Cross does not notify the next of kin, the CACO does. |
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