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tumbleweed_marijane · Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: anyang

i went to watch it today knowing absolutely nothing about it save for that it was a film about the Mayas and that it was 'a bit' bloody.

30 minutes after stepping outta the theatre, my thoughts on the film range from feeling completely sickened by it to admiring the intensity with which it was filmed. one thing though, what was the director trying to accomplish with it? he wanted to shed light on a lost civilisation? or was he just pushing the envelope to see how far he could get away with indulging his sadistic tendencies?

desultude · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:23 am Post subject:

Or, was he showing that the pre-Columbian new world was totally corrupt, and needed the Spanish Christianifiers to come save their souls?

blaseblasphemener · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:31 am Post subject:

Director was Mel Gibson.

Wasn't it all in the Mayan language with Korean sub-titles? If so, I'll be waiting to see it on DVD or download it.

tumbleweed_marijane · Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: anyang

yea...'civilised man' coming to save the savages bit spoilt it for me 2

tumbleweed_marijane · Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: anyang

dulouz · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Uranus

jaderedux · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul

I saw it but I got the ending as a little different. What I took from it is everyone has their own apcolypse.

The Mayans became corrupt and cruel and brought down a reign of terror on the forest dwelling tribes and in the end the white man is rolling up to give them a taste of apocolypse European style.

I don't think every single M.G. movie is some tirade about God or Catholism. The Passion Play goes on every year in different parts of the the world and did so before Mel.

I liked the movie.

Jade who can't spell

thebomb · Joined: 13 Nov 2006

I disagree that it was portraying civilised man coming to save them, it was apt timing that the spaniards turned up in that bay at that time which resulted in the main character not being killed by the two remaining Mayans. That was the extent of the Spaniards involvement.

The violence was graphic, but very realistic. Enjoyable and recommended!

seoulsucker · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject:

Was I the only one who paid attention to what the sick little girl said 1/2 way through the movie? Or the old man at the campfire at the beginning?

How could you possibly think that the appearance of the missionaries was anything short of the coming of their apocalypse?

Seems like people got too caught up in the violence and Mel's recent religious rantings and madness to appreciate a great film. I give it 4 out of 5 stars.

rothkowitz · Joined: 27 Apr 2006

I thought it was pretty standard fare.

Enjoyable but there wasn't really much there to think about.The camera work is pretty frenetic in the chase scenes but the only shot that really surprised or worked that well was the POV of a head having been chopped off and falling to the ground.(Didn't he do this in Braveheart too?,must have a thing for it.)

As for the old man at the campfire and the sick girl,they're attempts to foreshadow but not very subtle.More like something printed on a banner for your attention.

For movies dealing with that time,I prefer this one.

http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/CoverArtUnverified/13040.jpg

seoulsucker · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:26 am Post subject:

Anyone else get the impression that the high priest and the top dog at the temple knew that the eclipse was coming and were using it to manipulate the masses? There was a certain look they gave each other that led me to believe they were in the know, and as detailed and complex as the Mayan calendar/time keeping technology was for their time, it's plausible.

endo · Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home

God, I wish that this movie was playing somewhere in Seoul with English subtitles.

Sure I can buy the DVD (and will), but this is the kind of movie I want to see in the movie theater.

rothkowitz · Joined: 27 Apr 2006

Fresh Prince · Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: The glorious nation of Korea

My take on it was that the arrival of the Spanish was nothing more demonstrating the idea of Karma. The more powerful pyramid builders wiped out small tribes in a violent and merciless manner pursuing their religious ideals. At the end of the film, the Spanish came and the director made a point of highlighting one of the first to come ashore had a cross. We all know what really happened which was the director's intent. What goes around, comes around. Karma... Do onto others.

Hollywoodaction · Joined: 02 Jul 2004

Notice anything familiar about how the sacrifices were used to appease the masses, at how they were afraid that their civilisation was coming to an end due to a disease that was brought by foreigners? At how their god seems to have granted their wishes, but was trickery by the King's priest/propagandist? Notice how the one man who fights against this injustice will survive while the rest are destined for certain death at the hands of these foreigners because he will leave for a more peaceful home?