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Alyallen · Knock-out name for baby girl Sat Jun 23, 9:50 AM ET

Why? why? why?

ChimpumCallao · Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: your mom

wow. ridiculous.

ridiculous that parents can't name the kid what they want. the government is basically saying they have more power over their children and personal lives than they do.

its so nice to have nanny with guns who thinks they know better than u.

Alyallen · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:23 am Post subject:

gang ah jee · Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper

I know the libertarian randroids would like to get all flustered about THE NANNY STATE all up in here, but the issue is not the name; it's the numeral. And that's under review.

My mother's a primary school teacher and she shows me her attendence records every so often. We already have names much more ridiculous than '4real' going around.

ChimpumCallao · Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: your mom

first of all, NOT a randroid- second of all it is NOT about the numeral. it is about being free to make the (sometimes moronic) choices concerning your life.

If a parent wants to name their child something that will cause them great dificulty in the future as far as school registrations and whatever else go, that is their choice. it is not up to the state to dictate to them what is their best option.

I think it is a completely stupid thing for the state to get involved in- it's NOT their problem- its that of the idiot parents and the soon to be maladjusted kid.

ITS NO ONE ELSE'S PROBLEM.

gang ah jee · Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper

mithridates · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:14 am Post subject:

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cangel · Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: Jeonju, S. Korea

Sometimes parents need to be protected from their own stupidity, not to mention protecting the child from a childhood of torment.

Alyallen · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:44 am Post subject:

gang ah jee · Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper

Alyallen · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:53 am Post subject:

ChimpumCallao · Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: your mom

jaganath69 · Joined: 17 Jul 2003

safeblad · Joined: 17 Jul 2006

From Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner:

It has been well established that we live in an age of obsessive, even competitive, parenting. The typical parent is led to believe that her every move will greatly influence her child's future accomplishments. This belief expresses itself in the first official act a parent commits: giving the baby a name. Many parents seem to think that a child will not prosper unless it is hitched to the right one; names are seen to carry great aesthetic and even predictive powers.

This might explain why, in 1958, a New York City father named Robert Lane decided to call his baby son Winner. The Lanes, who lived in a housing project in Harlem, already had several children, each with a fairly typical name. But this boy�well, Robert Lane apparently had a special feeling about him. Winner Lane: How could he fail with a name like that?

Three years later, the Lanes had another baby boy, their seventh and last child. For reasons that no one can quite pin down today, Robert decided to name this boy Loser. Robert wasn't unhappy about the new baby; he just seemed to get a kick out of the name's bookend effect. First a Winner, now a Loser. But if Winner Lane could hardly be expected to fail, could Loser Lane possibly succeed?

Loser Lane did in fact succeed. He went to prep school on a scholarship, graduated from Lafayette College in Pennsylvania, and joined the New York Police Department, where he made detective and, eventually, sergeant. Although he never hid his name, many people were uncomfortable using it. To his police colleagues today, he is known as Lou.

And what of his brother? The most noteworthy achievement of Winner Lane, now in his late 40s, is the sheer length of his criminal record: more than 30 arrests for burglary, domestic violence, trespassing, resisting arrest, and other mayhem.

These days, Loser and Winner barely speak. The father who named them is no longer alive. Though he got his boys mixed up, did he have the right idea�is naming destiny? What kind of signal does a child's name send to the world?

Alyallen · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject:

Names are important, I suppose but mostly the importance comes from the expectation people attach to the name.

People have told me that I don't have a "Black" name? It's like WTF? Blame my parents for giving me a "White" name?!? Confused

I swear it made me feel stupider each time someone brought it up.

But ultimately, you will become who you are based more on your life's experiences and upbringing, not based on your name...such as the Winner-Loser name game...