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mack the knife
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buymybook
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Bingo
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| Is anything ever Korea's fault? |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Bingo wrote: |
| Is anything ever Korea's fault? |
No.
Don't you know about America? |
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Alias
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Group is a small minority. |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Sure, we'll be savior to your idiot Christian citizens' butts if you give us four more cities in which to put military bases.
Oh, you don't want our military bases there?
What? But, but, but... |
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Snowmeow
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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In contrast with the OP is this article from yesterday's New York Times
Anger Is Tempering Sympathy for South Korean Hostages
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/03/world/asia/03korea.html
1st two paragraphs:
"SEOUL, South Korea, Aug. 2 � As the South Korean hostage crisis entered its third week, sympathy here for the 21 people remaining in Taliban captivity in Afghanistan has been tempered by anger over their decision to travel to such a dangerous region.
�My friends and I first wondered, �Why did the church send those people to a place the government had advised them not to travel?� � said Shim Sae-rom, a political science major at Ewha Womans University in Seoul. �What were they thinking?� " |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Snowmeow wrote: |
In contrast with the OP is this article from yesterday's New York Times
Anger Is Tempering Sympathy for South Korean Hostages
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/03/world/asia/03korea.html
1st two paragraphs:
"SEOUL, South Korea, Aug. 2 � As the South Korean hostage crisis entered its third week, sympathy here for the 21 people remaining in Taliban captivity in Afghanistan has been tempered by anger over their decision to travel to such a dangerous region.
�My friends and I first wondered, �Why did the church send those people to a place the government had advised them not to travel?� � said Shim Sae-rom, a political science major at Ewha Womans University in Seoul. �What were they thinking?� " |
This caught my eye. From the same article...
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| The situation in Afghanistan is not the first in which South Korean church volunteers have been endangered. In 2004, eight Korean missionaries in Iraq were kidnapped but released after they pretended to be doctors and nurses. That year, a man who had gone to Iraq to do missionary work was beheaded. Last year, 1,600 South Korean Christians who had gathered in Afghanistan for a peace festival were deported because of safety concerns. |
I never heard about that. Sixteen HUNDRED people were deported because of safety concerns and people decided it's safe to go back? The logic...AIGO....the logic.... |
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enns
Joined: 02 May 2006
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| I wonder if your average South Korean realizes that if it wasn't for the USA, the South would be in the same dire straights as the North. SK should feel nothing short of gratefulness to America. If they don't like the war in Afghanistan, why not be angry at your government for sending in your troops? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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I don't think people would try to pull some major anti-American moves over these hostages except for some Protestants, but the Buddhists, Catholics, and reasonable Christian Koreans would know that those missionaries were advised by their own government not to go there.
It was interesting the following below:
�Yes, let�s pray for their safe return, only if to see them kneel down and apologize to the people for the Protestants� arrogant and blatant behavior,� one person wrote on one Internet bulletin board that Naver.com, the country�s largest Internet portal, opened to invite condolences for the two hostages who were killed.
It seems that some Koreans of the non-Protestant persuasion resent many of the Protestants of Korea as arrogant and ignorant just as some on this board portray them. I agree with that sentiment to some extent.
They are too blinded sometimes by their cultish style Christian worship. |
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mack the knife
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Yeap and this is thy punishment |
And that's how they've been punishing America for years. It's their one and only trump card. |
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Paji eh Wong
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:49 am Post subject: |
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| If the Uri party uses this as a wedge issue, and this becomes 2002 all over again, I will have lost the last shred of my faith in Koreans. |
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mack the knife
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| If the Uri party uses this as a wedge issue, and this becomes 2002 all over again, I will have lost the last shred of my faith in Koreans. |
It's already begun. On another thread that was deleted, Real Reality provided links that showed this to be the case. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| It's getting worse. |
I agree.nis
This kind of crap has been on the fringes and has pretty much remained on the fringes, so far.
IMO, this will not be like '02. This time, Bill O'Reilly may get a hold of this kind of article and go ballistic. In '02, they made a general cry on 60 Minutes. This time, the Koreans won't be able to burn their candles and make each other feel good, knowing no one is really paying any attention to them. Bill and his ilk may well stir up the right by bringing it to everyone's notice that Korea didn't send troops to Afghanistan/Iraq with an intent to join in the fight against terrorism, but waited more than a year before finally getting around to sending non-combat troops so Korea could get in on the construction projects, as they openly discussed.
Let someone else die, as long as we can make a won, and appear (and we all know how much appearance over substance matters) like loyal allies. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Adventurer wrote:
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I don't think people would try to pull some major anti-American moves over these hostages except for some Protestants, but the Buddhists, Catholics, and reasonable Christian Koreans would know that those missionaries were advised by their own government not to go there.
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I agree. It's not comparable to the girl's getting crushed by the military vehicle in 2002. This time around, almost everyone I've talked to, even people who think that Korea or the US should negotiate, acknowledges quite openly that the missionaries did not show particularly good judgement in going to Afghanistan. So I don't think that the nationalists could really frame it in quite the same Manichean terms as they did the other incident. |
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