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Troll_Bait
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joshuahirtle27
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 Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:29 am Post subject: Re: Is Facebook diminishing children's social skills? |
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All signs point to probably. |
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llj2kll
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I think facebook actually helps millions of people connect with strangers/acquaintances a lot more easily. It's also great for seeing if you share common friends with someone.
Children who aren't socializing would still have many reasons not to socialize even without facebook. i.e., video games, television, reading books, etc. |
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Chuvok
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| People under 18 should not be allowed to use the unrestricted internet unless a parent/teacher is in the same room monitoring them. |
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joshuahirtle27
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| llj2kll wrote: |
I think facebook actually helps millions of people connect with strangers/acquaintances a lot more easily. It's also great for seeing if you share common friends with someone.
Children who aren't socializing would still have many reasons not to socialize even without facebook. i.e., video games, television, reading books, etc. |
So you're saying it's okay to add another reason because they already have so many? At least with TV and video games they can do that at a friends house and reading books they can discuss what they are reading. While FB has its merits, such as the networking you mentioned, it's important that children interact with one another on a level that's outside "lolz, ill c u l8a" |
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michaelambling
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Not just facebook, but the entire internet has turned us into a generation of socially awkward wimps. |
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tfunk
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Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| joshuahirtle27 wrote: |
| At least with TV and video games they can do that at a friends house and reading books they can discuss what they are reading. While FB has its merits, such as the networking you mentioned, it's important that children interact with one another on a level that's outside "lolz, ill c u l8a" |
How many times as a child did you discuss the book you were reading? How many times when watching TV did you discuss the program?
Todays work places demand that we evaluate information from multiple sources quickly. Our working environments are changing and children need to learn the skills to use these environments.
| joshuahirtle27 wrote: |
| it's important that children interact with one another on a level that's outside "lolz, ill c u l8a" |
If you listen to children's conversations they are very basic and the subject matter is repetitive - it's not far off from the example you gave. They interact with each other at school.
Books, computer games etc. have all been considered to be degrading to a child's social skills, however having a playground in which to develop a conceptual identity seems part and parcel of the developing humans disposition. Children used to play as being Mommy and Daddy because they were priming themselves for using those roles as adults, now they are practicing 'cyber life' and that is where a significant proportion of their adult identity will be. |
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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| tfunk wrote: |
How many times as a child did you discuss the book you were reading? How many times when watching TV did you discuss the program?
Todays work places demand that we evaluate information from multiple sources quickly. Our working environments are changing and children need to learn the skills to use these environments.
If you listen to children's conversations they are very basic and the subject matter is repetitive - it's not far off from the example you gave. They interact with each other at school.
Books, computer games etc. have all been considered to be degrading to a child's social skills, however having a playground in which to develop a conceptual identity seems part and parcel of the developing humans disposition. Children used to play as being Mommy and Daddy because they were priming themselves for using those roles as adults, now they are practicing 'cyber life' and that is where a significant proportion of their adult identity will be. |
Are you counting Facebook as an information medium? Really? What vital information do you get from Facebook that you couldn't otherwise get from asking "how are you".
While I realize that children don't discuss books like adults do they still compare what they like or dislike about the books that they are collectively reading (Harry Potter or whatever the latest fad book is) and they do talk about how the book was better than the movies for some reason or another.
Even games still allow for some manner of mutual interaction... while that could be better used for other interactions it's possible for it to be both healthy and not.
The magic thing about our generation is that we know of a time when the internet WASN'T there so SOME of us know the difference between reality and fiction. I see the problem being that since kids are fully immersed in a Cyber-life they may not be able to separate reality from fiction. Sure there are worse sites that FB out there but why are we telling people that it's better to find out stuff about a person form some website when you can talk to and interact with a lot of the people... I'd hope my son would talk to me in person rather than over FB. |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:00 am Post subject: |
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| joshuahirtle27 wrote: |
| tfunk wrote: |
How many times as a child did you discuss the book you were reading? How many times when watching TV did you discuss the program?
Todays work places demand that we evaluate information from multiple sources quickly. Our working environments are changing and children need to learn the skills to use these environments.
If you listen to children's conversations they are very basic and the subject matter is repetitive - it's not far off from the example you gave. They interact with each other at school.
Books, computer games etc. have all been considered to be degrading to a child's social skills, however having a playground in which to develop a conceptual identity seems part and parcel of the developing humans disposition. Children used to play as being Mommy and Daddy because they were priming themselves for using those roles as adults, now they are practicing 'cyber life' and that is where a significant proportion of their adult identity will be. |
Are you counting Facebook as an information medium? Really? What vital information do you get from Facebook that you couldn't otherwise get from asking "how are you".
While I realize that children don't discuss books like adults do they still compare what they like or dislike about the books that they are collectively reading (Harry Potter or whatever the latest fad book is) and they do talk about how the book was better than the movies for some reason or another.
Even games still allow for some manner of mutual interaction... while that could be better used for other interactions it's possible for it to be both healthy and not.
The magic thing about our generation is that we know of a time when the internet WASN'T there so SOME of us know the difference between reality and fiction. I see the problem being that since kids are fully immersed in a Cyber-life they may not be able to separate reality from fiction. Sure there are worse sites that FB out there but why are we telling people that it's better to find out stuff about a person form some website when you can talk to and interact with a lot of the people... I'd hope my son would talk to me in person rather than over FB. |
Am I right in thinking that you are suggesting that computer games allow for more "mutual interaction" than facebook?
If I am right, then I have to strongly disagree.
How much interaction is really required to play computer games? Sweet *beep* all. My younger brother spent most of his teenage years shooting things on his computer and the only mutual interaction he got from that was. . .well, shit. He didn't get any mutual interaction. He was living in a fantasy world.
Facebook, on the other hand, is based in reality and not fantasy. You generally know people in the real world before you add them as "friends"; facebook is not replacing face to face communication but rather supplementing it. If anything, I'd argue that facebook is making communication too accessible to kids and they can say anything they like without having to deal with an immediate (face to face) response.
As for knowing the difference between reality and fantasy, well. . .isn't that part of the beauty of childhood? |
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Spike
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:39 am Post subject: |
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wut, r u dum?
facebook and txt msgs r g8!
ur a QT!
txt me l8r k?
<3
rotflmao! |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| Chuvok wrote: |
| People under 18 should not be allowed to use the unrestricted internet unless a parent/teacher is in the same room monitoring them. |
Maybe, but I had a lot of unsupervised fun on the internet from age 14 on and I'm not sure I'd want to take that away from the next generation. |
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Teelo
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| Chuvok wrote: |
| People under 18 should not be allowed to use the [...] internet [...] . |
Fixed that up for you. |
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richardlang
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Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| Is our children learning? |
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semi-fly
Joined: 07 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| Children have social skills? I thought the advent of the internet made sure that didn't happen or at least didn't continue. |
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