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Korea is a first world country???
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Korea is a first world country??? Reply with quote

Do any of you believe Korea to be a first world country? I think Koreans are fooling themselve if they think it is. I like Korea, and the lifestyle it gives me, more importantly....BUT IMO there is no way a place can be first world, when many people don't have clothes dryers, bathtubs, or ovens in their apartments. The poorest people in the states have 1 or more of these home creature comforts, usually. Also, the variety of food/clothing shops in Korea cannot compare to places like Hong Kong, Japan, or even Bangkok. For Thailand to be such a poor country, the variety there is much better. I love Korean food, too, but the variety in Hong Kong simply amazed me. I do know that most apartments in Hong Kong are boxes though, just like they are here. But, it is still more internationally minded.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: Korea is a first world country??? Reply with quote

princess wrote:
have clothes dryers, bathtubs, or ovens in their apartments.


I have all of those things. My bath is a jacuzzi.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: Korea is a first world country??? Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
princess wrote:
have clothes dryers, bathtubs, or ovens in their apartments.


I have all of those things. My bath is a jacuzzi.
Congrats to you. I have the oven at the moment, and 2 years ago, I had the tub, but no oven...hahaha
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indytrucks



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thing is though, all the apartments in my block are the same. Dryer, oven, jacuzzi bath all come standard. So there might be more people having those things than you think.
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shaunew



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Calgary

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends who you are and what assets you have I guess. I have a 4 bedroom apartment put in a western style oven I have a washing machine dryer. and two bath tubs. I know some don't have these things but others have more then me.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
Thing is though, all the apartments in my block are the same. Dryer, oven, jacuzzi bath all come standard. So there might be more people having those things than you think.
My coworkers have none of these things, and a friend of mine in the area also has none of these things.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have any idea what people in second and third world countries live like?
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PeteJB



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see, a country with more apartments than sand on a beach.

I think your looking at this the wrong way. Many people in Korea still live the traditional lifestyle (an ever decreasing number) but that doesn't mean they are all poor. If you go to the UK, you'll see lots of tiny houses and places where people live in countless rows mashed together - Something you'll rarely see in the US. US houses are generally bigger, too. Does that mean all those people in the UK living in those box houses are poor compared to their US counterparts?
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LuckyNomad



Joined: 28 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think that a dryer would be a waste of electricity. Drying things out on the balcony is convenient and free.

I have a bathtub.
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newton kabiddles



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:55 am    Post subject: Re: Korea is a first world country??? Reply with quote

princess wrote:
Also, the variety of food/clothing shops in Korea cannot compare to places like Hong Kong, Japan, or even Bangkok.

Also...you've never lived in those places.
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My house back home has a pool and court, front and backyard. As with just about everyone in the neighbourhood.

Is that first world? Wink
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeteJB wrote:
Let's see, a country with more apartments than sand on a beach.

I think your looking at this the wrong way. Many people in Korea still live the traditional lifestyle (an ever decreasing number) but that doesn't mean they are all poor. If you go to the UK, you'll see lots of tiny houses and places where people live in countless rows mashed together - Something you'll rarely see in the US. US houses are generally bigger, too. Does that mean all those people in the UK living in those box houses are poor compared to their US counterparts?


Well, yes. Yes, it does.

Some eastern cities in the US still have those terraced houses too by the way.
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PeteJB



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, they are poor relative to the economy and situation of the entire country. In Korea, if you take into account every factor of society - Not having a washing machine doesn't mean they are poor. It's just relative to the current level of society.

UK apartments might seem poor to US standards.
Korean apartments might seem poor by UK standards.
Chinese apartments might seem poor by Korean standards.

And maybe, they really ARE worse off money wise, but that doesn't mean they are "third world" - It's just relative to the society.
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oneofthesarahs



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when did not having an oven = not a first world country?

I might not be able to bake a cake in my apartment, but I have access to health care, have access to internet and other technologies, and from as far as I can tell, am not dying of malaria. So you know, I'm okay with not having an oven.
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blade



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckyNomad wrote:
Personally, I think that a dryer would be a waste of electricity. Drying things out on the balcony is convenient and free.

I have a bathtub.


Ya I agree. I have a dryer in my apartment in Ireland and despite the rain I rarely ever need to use it.
Some Americans that I met in my travels seem to view hanging cloths out on the line as something only poor people do so maybe this is why princess(I am assuming here that she is an American) thinks Korea is not a first world nation. Also Japanese people tend not to have ovens in their apartments either because it's just as cheap and easier to eat out rather than at home.


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