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R. S. Refugee



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Grunt analysis Reply with quote

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/19/3270/
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's on a sinking ship. Even the rats have left it.
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keane



Joined: 09 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
He's on a sinking ship. Even the rats have left it.


We have learned the good general will not be delivering "his" report, or even writing it, after all. We just saw three to five hundred people killed in one attack. The opposition just goes where we ain't. That's how you win, or at least don't lose, the game. IT also why the "surge" has done not much more than kill Americans at a faster rate and has failed to move the political situation forward at all. You will remember a primary reason for the surge was to provide a stable environment for the political side of the problem in Iraq.

Yes, the ship is sinking. You are quite right.

Are you ever going to enter a thread to discuss the topic rather than attack the messenger?
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keane



Joined: 09 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As usual, no content from the neo-cons. Soldiers talking about the war in negative terms is ignored to maintain your cognitive dissonance, rather avoid it. Pages and pages on Chavez from the neo-cons - most of it insulting other posters - but nothing when US soldiers say what 70 percent of America thinks.

Anyone surprised?


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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who are the neo-cons, exactly?
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Who are the neo-cons, exactly?


A good question (but as always, a loaded one from you, I'm sure)

"Neo con" represents entrenched interest. Most of all, military and might is right because it pays the (read, MY) bills. It does not represent ideology or belief. Other than incidentally.

DD
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a funny definition dd! Wrong, but funny.

Neo-conservatism typifies the belief that American military might is appropriately used in spreading 'American values' of democracy and such. Generally, this is complemented by a "big meaning" goal at home, whereby the population is encouraged to look for meaning in life through the state.

I suppose Joo might be a neo-con. I can't think of any others who post here.

I'll define neo-douch for you when I'm less sleepy.
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keane



Joined: 09 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD wrote:
Who are the neo-cons, exactly?


Well, there are the neo-cons, then there are those they say they aren't, but act like they are. You are the latter. You make comments hinting at being against the war or not supporting Bush, but your attacks on people who actually do are vicious. I put you in the same category as Gopher on that score.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. Perhaps it is only me you attack?

Wink

Don't miss the new posts on the PO and Meltdown threads. Have some serious Q's and info I hope you will respond to.
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keane



Joined: 09 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ddeubel wrote:
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Who are the neo-cons, exactly?


A good question (but as always, a loaded one from you, I'm sure)

"Neo con" represents entrenched interest. Most of all, military and might is right because it pays the (read, MY) bills. It does not represent ideology or belief. Other than incidentally.

DD


I think I might call them empiricons: they have no true love of ideology, but use it to get control, money and power while preferring (publicly, at least) slightly the conservative agenda.

Empire! EMPIRE!
- Queensryche
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