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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: al qaeda manual Reply with quote

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0524072torture6.html










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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather disgusting stuff.

I just hope you're not suggesting that that is the baseline of acceptable behavior. If we use that to justify our treatment of them, then we're really no better than they are.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no we would still be better than them.

Just cause the US did the Dresden bombings which killed many civilians did not make the US the same as World War II Germany.

When Sherman burned down Atlanta that did not make the Union the moral equivelent of the South.


The US isn't perfect but AQ is evil.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
no we would still be better than them.


Up to what point?

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Just cause the US did the Dresden bombings which killed many civilians did not make the US the same as World War II Germany.


Did the US try to exterminate the German people?

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When Sherman burned down Atlanta that did not make the Union the moral equivelent of the South.


Did the Union enslave Southerners?

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The US isn't perfect but AQ is evil.


So as long as we have "noble intentions," we are free to do as we please?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Up to what point?


As long as you compare what the goals of your side/

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Just cause the US did the Dresden bombings which killed many civilians did not make the US the same as World War II Germany.


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Did the US try to exterminate the German people?


No but they killed a lot of civilians.

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When Sherman burned down Atlanta that did not make the Union the moral equivelent of the South.


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Did the Union enslave Southerners?


No but the tactics used by the Union were very harsh.

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The US isn't perfect but AQ is evil.


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So as long as we have "noble intentions," we are free to do as we please


No, but there is a world of difference between the US and the enemy.

Even if the US were to use the same techniques as AQ the US would still be morally superior. Cause of the difference in the goals. It doesn't mean the US ought to use the same techniques. But what a side fights for must be considered too.
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