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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: Hogwans in Seoul with illegal teachers will be shut down! |
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https://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/08/24/200708240042.asp
Probe into private institute teachers
The Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education is set to launch an investigation into the academic backgrounds of instructors at private educational institutes, officials said Aug. 8.
The announcement was made after several *celebrity instructors, including professors, were found to have *fake academic *credentials.
According to the plan, the investigation will target over 35,000 instructors at some 6,800 private institutes hagwons in Seoul. The office will make inquiry at universities throughout the country regarding national credentials, but foreign academic credentials will be exempted.
Any teacher found to have fake academic records will be prosecuted. In addition, institutes that have employed these instructors will be forced to close.
Operators of private institutes strongly oppose the investigation. "The policy originates from the wrong idea that regulation of private educational institutions is the only way to restore the public education system," said Lee Sang-man, the president of a *prominent association of private institute owners.
By Yi hae-won ([email protected]) |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Hogwans in Seoul with illegal teachers will be shut down |
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wylies99 wrote: |
Operators of private institutes strongly oppose the investigation. |
Hire legal teachers and you won't have to worry about it, snapperheads. |
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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I've met two English teachers from the Phillipines, one who had intermediate skill and the other perfect English. Are they legal to teach here? |
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FistFace

Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Location: Peekaboo! I can see you! And I know what you do!
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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It's a start.
What they need to do now is go after Public/Private/Universities.
They go after the hagwons because the gov't hates the hagwon system. |
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laconic2

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Wonderful World of ESL
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: Huh? |
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As I recall, this all began (most recently) because of a prominent individual who claimed to have degrees from overseas universities.
How does that reconcile with:
"The office will make inquiry at universities throughout the country regarding national credentials, but foreign academic credentials will be exempted."
Claim all foreign degrees and you get a pass? |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Location: United States
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost wrote: |
I've met two English teachers from the Phillipines, one who had intermediate skill and the other perfect English. Are they legal to teach here? |
If they are spouses of a Korean national. I know many who are just that. |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Lee Sang-man = communist |
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VirginIslander
Joined: 24 May 2006 Location: Busan
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Immigration has one hand in the howgrons pocket and the other on the phone. Before arriving, immigration will make the call and the howgron will do what is needed.
Trust me. |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: The Y.C.
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Guess, hagwons will have to do their jobs and validate the teachers credentials. On the other hand, I don't think one criminal act by a teacher should force the school into bankruptcy. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hagwon owners send out the receptionist to buy more brown envelopes, problem solved. |
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johnpeterson2008
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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VirginIslander wrote: |
Immigration has one hand in the howgrons pocket and the other on the phone. Before arriving, immigration will make the call and the howgron will do what is needed.
Trust me. |
You've really seen this in Korea? It sounds like your employer is shady if he or she "will do what is needed" before immigration comes. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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ED209 wrote: |
Hagwon owners send out the receptionist to buy more brown envelopes, problem solved. |
Actually, in Korea, they're usually white envelopes. Just a minor point. |
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Whistleblower

Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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That is how Berlitz operates in Korea. They have an informer to tell them when immigration is visiting and they recall all E2 Visa holders from company teaching to go back to Berlitz. E2 Visa holders are not allowed to teach at companies but that is how they operate. |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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FUBAR wrote: |
On the other hand, I don't think one criminal act by a teacher should force the school into bankruptcy. |
(Not directed at FUBAR) This is precisely how a teacher without the proper work visa thinks. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost wrote: |
I've met two English teachers from the Phillipines, one who had intermediate skill and the other perfect English. Are they legal to teach here? |
They are if they have a degree AND an f2 visa.
VirginIslander wrote: |
Immigration has one hand in the howgrons pocket and the other on the phone. Before arriving, immigration will make the call and the howgron will do what is needed.
Trust me. |
Immigration won't be involved in this one. They are after KOREANs teaching without proper credentials or with fake / fraudulent credentials. This is the office of education and the national police service (as compared to city or provincial police services).
Foreigners and those with foreign credentials will be exempt (they have no way to validate them). They are looking for the fake SNU degrees.
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