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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Wierd situation Reply with quote

I was meant originally to be finished my current contract in August but the boss wanted me to extend until the end of November which I accepted as I was planning a vacation over christmas anyway.

So there is a new teacher coming in September and we were to be working together. Student numbers have not been growing as the boss forseen(his crystal ball blacked out) and he says they can't have 2 teachers. He would rather have the new teacher who would be there for one year rather than organising another new teacher at the end of november.

He told me this this yesterday and obviously I was a bit upset. But he also said that they would keep my visa open until the end of November even though I'm not working there. I suppose I would still officially be but I wouldn;t be there or get paid.

Now here is the question. I know i can't work anywhere else on this visa legally for the three months. But can I take this time to travel and see some of Korea?

I'll have a good chunk of change after severance/airplane money/key money/bs housing deposit at the end of this month so I could afford it.

Is it legal to be on an E2 visa but not working at the academy? It seems like an unusual situation.
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Vicissitude



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Wierd situation Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
I was meant originally to be finished my current contract in August but the boss wanted me to extend until the end of November which I accepted as I was planning a vacation over christmas anyway.

So there is a new teacher coming in September and we were to be working together. Student numbers have not been growing as the boss forseen(his crystal ball blacked out) and he says they can't have 2 teachers. He would rather have the new teacher who would be there for one year rather than organising another new teacher at the end of november.

He told me this this yesterday and obviously I was a bit upset. But he also said that they would keep my visa open until the end of November even though I'm not working there. I suppose I would still officially be but I wouldn;t be there or get paid.

Now here is the question. I know i can't work anywhere else on this visa legally for the three months. But can I take this time to travel and see some of Korea?

[yes you can work somewhere else on that visa. You get what's called a "permission for alteration of addition of employment place." Pay your 60,000 won at the immigration office. You have to decide where else you want to work and have your current employer process the paper work. If you don't want to work, that's up to you. However, if your employer has a contract at the visa office that says they have to pay you a certain salary every month, then they are obligated. If they fail to provide you with employment and a salary according to the terms of the contract, you can take this issue to the labor board. No they cannot have you on an E2 visa while refusing you work and pay. This is common sense. However, if you just want to travel, that's fine. Just take a plane or boat ride out of the country for a short time and come back on a tourist visa. Why you would want to tour Korea for months on end is beyond me but hey that's your choice. I'd go somewhere that's much much cheaper like Thailand where one can never get board.]

I'll have a good chunk of change after severance/airplane money/key money/bs housing deposit at the end of this month so I could afford it.

Is it legal to be on an E2 visa but not working at the academy? It seems like an unusual situation.
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Wierd situation Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
But he also said that they would keep my visa open until the end of November even though I'm not working there.


WHY?
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RedRob



Joined: 07 Jul 2003
Location: Narnia

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have hada similar thing happen to me, it ain't so bad. Here's what I did: had a big chat with bossman, told him what I wanted to do and got his OK. Then I stopped working for him, kept the visa. Jumped on english spectrum etc and did a heap of short term jobs, you would have seen 'em, 1 mill for one week, no housing, that kinda thing.

I also got in touch with some recruiters...why? Often teachers sign on and agree to start at a job, but for whatever reason they are delayed for a week or two. You jump in, charging 150-200 a day or 35-40/hr as a stopgap. Ask for big coin- haggie owners know the risk you are taking, if they don't want to pay that much, walk out, let them deal with crazy mums, but leave yr h.p. no.

Ask for pay every friday, or if they look a bit kooky, ask for an envelope every day. You can make a stack, have fun, no stress.

Make up 5-10 "one off" lesson plans, keep them in yr back pack and leave yr phone on. You will have spells where there is nothing to do say from tue-fri. Proceed to WTBook, get something you like, off to G's Terrace, Nash rooftop whatever. Order beer, add sunglasses= day sorted.

There will be safeskis saying : its against the law! OMG!! You can't do that!!! Effem and their meekness. Take a punt, have some fun, make some cash. I did this for about 4 months, made enuff for another 4 months holiday in Thailand, then came back got a real E2,, normal job etc.

I wouldn't want to do it for years, but have a go for a short while.


Good Luck!
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Re: Wierd situation Reply with quote

normalcyispasse wrote:
JMO wrote:
But he also said that they would keep my visa open until the end of November even though I'm not working there.


WHY?


He seems genuinely sorry about letting me go. He also offered to hook me up with another other academy job although he mentioned nothing about official permission, i omitted that from the OP. I only want to stay for 3 months until my vacation so he trying to help me out by keeping my visa open and then I could whatever i wanted. I'm thinking about it... The boss also offered to set me up with an 'agent'. The only thing I'm worried about is housing.


What kind of housing did you have when you were doing this Rob?
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RedRob



Joined: 07 Jul 2003
Location: Narnia

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had my own place, little roof top in HBChon 2m down/ 300/ month. I have always found it much easier to ask for extra $$ and do my own thing for housing, even when properly contracted, nothing worse than having a sick day and having the boss come over to make sure you really are sick! (or wondering if they have keys to yr house etc....just a peace of mind/privacy trip I have I guess)

In yr situation I would get on other boards and look for someone who is after a roomate, or maybe a goshiwon.

You should be able to score a decent room with some one not too crazy for between 250-400/ month in the HBC/Haum dong/ Itewon area.
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RedRob



Joined: 07 Jul 2003
Location: Narnia

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another idea....if he is cool with it, maybe offer bossman 250/300 for your current place, he probably has a year lease on it, so he might appreciate some extra coin.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedRob wrote:
I had my own place, little roof top in HBChon 2m down/ 300/ month. I have always found it much easier to ask for extra $$ and do my own thing for housing, even when properly contracted, nothing worse than having a sick day and having the boss come over to make sure you really are sick! (or wondering if they have keys to yr house etc....just a peace of mind/privacy trip I have I guess)

In yr situation I would get on other boards and look for someone who is after a roomate, or maybe a goshiwon.

You should be able to score a decent room with some one not too crazy for between 250-400/ month in the HBC/Haum dong/ Itewon area.


Well I'm in Daegu, but I'm sure the same thing would apply. Thanks for the advice. Whats a goshiwon btw?
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RedRob



Joined: 07 Jul 2003
Location: Narnia

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are dorm-style dwellings, where you will be given a small room to yourself, complete with bed, TV, and desk. In most cases, shower, washroom, kitchen, and laundry is shared by everyone else, however, you can find more expensive ones that have more space and in-room showers. The big difference between a hasuk and a goshiwon is that hasuks usually provide free breakfast and dinner, whereas goshiwons are usually no-frills and only provide kimchi and rice.

Short term, cheap, popular with uni students and budget travellers.

Google http://wiki.galbijim.com for good info and links.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedRob wrote:
These are dorm-style dwellings, where you will be given a small room to yourself, complete with bed, TV, and desk. In most cases, shower, washroom, kitchen, and laundry is shared by everyone else, however, you can find more expensive ones that have more space and in-room showers. The big difference between a hasuk and a goshiwon is that hasuks usually provide free breakfast and dinner, whereas goshiwons are usually no-frills and only provide kimchi and rice.

Short term, cheap, popular with uni students and budget travellers.

Google http://wiki.galbijim.com for good info and links.


thanks dude..I'll definitly take a look at my options. Seems things aren't so bad after all:)
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Wierd situation Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
Is it legal to be on an E2 visa but not working at the academy? It seems like an unusual situation.

I have been in that situation. Maybe he understands that it's not fair, the way he treated you.
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RedRob



Joined: 07 Jul 2003
Location: Narnia

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So OiGirl,
how did you get around the problem?
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What problem? I stayed in Korea with a friend until my visa expired.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your boss owes you big time for this hassle. Take him up on the offer of a contact with another job. Get the permission to work at another location form from immi.

OR: If you have the money to hang around Korea for 3 months without working, you have the cash to go to SE Asia and start your vacation early.
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