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djplatinum
Joined: 29 May 2006
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 Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: Question about signing a contract and not having visa yet |
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Hello,
I just have quick question. If you go to a school, sign a contract, they send away to get your visa issuane number (I think it is this number I need before I can go to Japan to get my visa, or it is my alien registration card number), but you haven't got your visa yet. How binding is the contract if I wanted to work for another school? Does them sending away to get the visa issuance number (or alien registration number) affect me in any way if I am going to sign on with another school. Would I still have to get a letter of release?
If it means anything to anyone, I have been working at the school for a month now without my work visa, but I am suppose to be going to get it this week.
I am thinking about leaving my current school because the living and working situation with my ex-friend went bad and I can get more money and live in Seoul if I were to leave rather than her leaving because she is a gyopo. One of us is leaving for sure, so I think thinking that it is in my best interest that I leave. I am the type of person that likes to honor my contract, but I just want to know what my options are because this girl is getting nasty with me and I don't want to be around her any more.
Please, all info on this topic is welcome. Thanks in advance. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: Re: Question about signing a contract and not having visa ye |
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| djplatinum wrote: |
Hello,
I just have quick question. If you go to a school, sign a contract, they send away to get your visa issuane number (I think it is this number I need before I can go to Japan to get my visa, or it is my alien registration card number), but you haven't got your visa yet. How binding is the contract if I wanted to work for another school? Does them sending away to get the visa issuance number (or alien registration number) affect me in any way if I am going to sign on with another school. Would I still have to get a letter of release?
If it means anything to anyone, I have been working at the school for a month now without my work visa, but I am suppose to be going to get it this week.
I am thinking about leaving my current school because the living and working situation with my ex-friend went bad and I can get more money and live in Seoul if I were to leave rather than her leaving because she is a gyopo. One of us is leaving for sure, so I think thinking that it is in my best interest that I leave. I am the type of person that likes to honor my contract, but I just want to know what my options are because this girl is getting nasty with me and I don't want to be around her any more.
Please, all info on this topic is welcome. Thanks in advance. |
IF you have a contract and NO visa issuance number has been applied for yet then you are free to leave.
If the visa issuance number has been applied for you will have to wait until it expires (90 days from date of issue) before a new employer can get a new one for you.
If you already have a visa but no ARC it is the same as having a visa with your ARC. You need a release (LOR).
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djplatinum
Joined: 29 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Thanks ttompatz for the reply.
So if they have already received the visa issuance number then there is no way another school could use that same number possibly to get a visa with their school, if my current school is ok with it? Any reason why it would take 90 days to expire when if you get a letter of release and at most work places ahve to give at least 30 days notice before leaving then why would it take 90 days for the issuance number to expire? That sucks.
Anyone ever deal with anything like this and how did you go about things?
Where is the visa issuance number issued at? Anyone I could talk to at that office to see if things could be worked out differently? |
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icicle
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| djplatinum wrote: |
Thanks ttompatz for the reply.
So if they have already received the visa issuance number then there is no way another school could use that same number possibly to get a visa with their school, if my current school is ok with it? Any reason why it would take 90 days to expire when if you get a letter of release and at most work places ahve to give at least 30 days notice before leaving then why would it take 90 days for the issuance number to expire? That sucks.
Anyone ever deal with anything like this and how did you go about things?
Where is the visa issuance number issued at? Anyone I could talk to at that office to see if things could be worked out differently? |
I guess the first potential problem I can see in your situation is that going to immigration now is going to mean telling them that you have been working illegally for a month at this stage .... But then again ... and it may depend on whoyou end up with at immigration ... maybe an I have just found out I am not working legally at my current employer and I want to leave and make things right with a new employer MAY ... or may not work ... Everything at this stage is going to have risks involved I think ... due to the work you have done illegally .... I guess that one option that you have is to go the employer and give the honest personal reasons why you need to leave now ... and ask for a letter of release ... Tell that you are going to be leaving any way because the current personal situation just cannot continue ... Tell him that if you cannot get tthe letter of release you have found that you will have no choice but to go to immigration and give them all the information including the working illegally and see if there is anything they can do to help you get out of the situation ... And you know that doing this ... and telling them you have worked illegally will put him as the employer in a very difficult situation ... But if you have the letter of release you will not have to do this ... All you want to do now is to make a fresh start ... Staying is impossible ...
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djplatinum
Joined: 29 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Well the school now knows the whole situation and knows that one of us is leaving. I now prefer it to be me. I have already had offers from other schools since last night and could get another job easily and explain the situation to them.
It is more a matter how my school getting my visa issuance number already will affect me as ttomcatz said. If it means having to wait 90 days, then that could be a big problem with getting into another school and having to wait those 90 days to get a visa with them. Would a letter of release void those 90 days? Any other way to get around waiting those 90 days that anyone knows of?
Anyone know where the visa issuance numbers are issued so I can call them up and ask them about the situation? Thanks. |
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icicle
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| djplatinum wrote: |
Anyone know where the visa issuance numbers are issued so I can call them up and ask them about the situation? Thanks. |
I would expect it to be the immigration office which handles the area in which your school is located ... so that shouldn't be too hard to find out ... Just ring up with a "my school has applied for the number" but I am not taking the job can I stop it now please ...... question and see what happens ... You may be lucky ... It may depend on how far it has got yet ...
But if it has gone too far ... would not a letter of release ... ie an He is not taking the job ... be enougn to allow you to start the process again ... If it can't simply be stopped .... then I'd say ask them what you need to do to cancel it so that you can get another job as this job is now not going to happen for you ... and you want to get another job as soon as possible (I guess it does go without saying that talking about already working in the job without the visa would probably not be a good idea)
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