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Sick of the "Technomarts", any suggestions?
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:39 am    Post subject: Sick of the "Technomarts", any suggestions? Reply with quote

Hey all,

I friggin' loathe the "Technomarts" here: i.e., Yongsan, the Technomart just across the river from Jamsil, etc. 9 floors of people selling the exact same crap, never having what you actually need, and overly expensive components that are manufactured 3 hours away in Taiwan.

So, does anyone have a suggestion for a place that doesn't leave them frustrated by the time they leave the door? Brick and mortar is fine, but I'm thinking of a good korean website/discount website like pricewatch.com
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jeffkim1972



Joined: 10 Jan 2007
Location: Mokpo

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just recently in Yongsan also. Rows and rows of the same crap at the same high price. Utterly ridiculous. you could fit Yongsan on one floor.

But you have 20 copies of the same booth selling the exact same stuff.
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.danawa.com/
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it that everyone thinks that the I'Park Mall (Yongsan station) and Terminal Building (big blue building attached to Yongsan station by the pedway over the rail yard are all that Yongsan consists of?

There are LOTS of great deals to be had on all kinds of stuff but you have to actually get out of the station to find them.

Son-in Plaza (the place with the big gigabyte sign on it), Nanjin Arcade (both buildings), Electroland, etc....

I can usually meet or beat the prices from Danawa by going to the Son-in plaza.


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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never ordered stuff online from a Korean site, but I found that if you print off the page for a product from a site like Danawa, it's a pretty useful bargaining chip at Yongsan
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johninmaine



Joined: 29 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...ive read somewhere that they are using these retail shops as "warehouses" to reduce their "actual inventory", thus making it seem like they are selling something, thus increasing stockholder share.

in Chinatown in NY they do they same thing, along with money-laundering, hiding money, etc.

so, they're not actually selling anything...it's more of a warehouse /money-laundering business to bump up stock price.

the chinese /asians aren't stupid, but they're unaware that the US is on a bit of a reductionist-idealogy now and aren't buying crap, electronics, etc (except the teenagers)

just ask any 40 yr old US parent, they'd rather be fishing than fooling around with their Blackberry. travel and leisure is UP, electronics is DOWN. (except laptops)
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peppermint



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, Johninmaine, these shops cater to the domestic market exclusively. As well, equating all Asian people with Chinese, particularly the Chinese underworld won't win you any friends when you arrive
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johninmaine



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you've studied economics for any significant time, you'll understand about inventory management, cash flow, production, etc.

if company XYZ manufactures 50 million cell phones then hides them in back rooms and retail stores, then company XYZ begins to "show" a profit.

have you read anything about US corporate scandals and inflating or manipulating balance sheets?? these companies look like the next Dell, but in actuality, they're not producing anything.

all countries do it in some manner, some worse than others. just so happens the Asian countries tend to use electronics.

another US example is ToysRUs, and they went bankrupt, and were bought in March 2005. because many of their stores weren't selling anything, just small warehouses, holding onto real estate like monopoly houses.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johninmaine wrote:
if you've studied economics for any significant time, you'll understand about inventory management, cash flow, production, etc.

if company XYZ manufactures 50 million cell phones then hides them in back rooms and retail stores, then company XYZ begins to "show" a profit.

have you read anything about US corporate scandals and inflating or manipulating balance sheets?? these companies look like the next Dell, but in actuality, they're not producing anything.

all countries do it in some manner, some worse than others. just so happens the Asian countries tend to use electronics.

another US example is ToysRUs, and they went bankrupt, and were bought in March 2005. because many of their stores weren't selling anything, just small warehouses, holding onto real estate like monopoly houses.


apples and oranges...

sites like danawa and auction are more like an e-bay for tech shops...

Small shops retailing on-line and most of the stuff they sell are not warehoused in their own inventory but drop-shipped (for parts) or custom one-offs (for systems).
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Why is it that everyone thinks that the I'Park Mall (Yongsan station) and Terminal Building (big blue building attached to Yongsan station by the pedway over the rail yard are all that Yongsan consists of?

There are LOTS of great deals to be had on all kinds of stuff but you have to actually get out of the station to find them.

Son-in Plaza (the place with the big gigabyte sign on it), Nanjin Arcade (both buildings), Electroland, etc....

I can usually meet or beat the prices from Danawa by going to the Son-in plaza.


No, I hate those places outside of the station too; same friggin crap.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johninmaine wrote:
if you've studied economics for any significant time, you'll understand about inventory management, cash flow, production, etc.

if company XYZ manufactures 50 million cell phones then hides them in back rooms and retail stores, then company XYZ begins to "show" a profit.

have you read anything about US corporate scandals and inflating or manipulating balance sheets?? these companies look like the next Dell, but in actuality, they're not producing anything.

all countries do it in some manner, some worse than others. just so happens the Asian countries tend to use electronics.

another US example is ToysRUs, and they went bankrupt, and were bought in March 2005. because many of their stores weren't selling anything, just small warehouses, holding onto real estate like monopoly houses.


it must suck being a know it all old fart.
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Gatsby



Joined: 09 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what you describe, places like this in the States are called "factory outlets." This sounds like a Korean version of a factory outlet mall. Sort of. Except each store sells the same stuff?

Now, the problem with factory outlets is that much of the stuff is B stock. This is stuff that has been returned, is defective, is slightly used, is old merchandise, or in this case, might be gray market stuff that does not have a manufacturer's warranty Of course, outlets also sell A stock, but it is labeled and costs more.

How do you know you are not getting B stock here?
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you looking for?
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gatsby wrote:
From what you describe, places like this in the States are called "factory outlets." This sounds like a Korean version of a factory outlet mall. Sort of. Except each store sells the same stuff?

Now, the problem with factory outlets is that much of the stuff is B stock. This is stuff that has been returned, is defective, is slightly used, is old merchandise, or in this case, might be gray market stuff that does not have a manufacturer's warranty Of course, outlets also sell A stock, but it is labeled and costs more.

How do you know you are not getting B stock here?


No...that's the GREAT thing about factory outlets. You know exactly what you're getting into. Maybe you'll get crap, maybe you'll get a diamond in the rough.

With the Technomarts, you really don't know what you're going to get. I bought a cell phone last week, and the friggin battery was almost dead. I went back last night and to replace the battery, guess what they did...they took it from another box. Great, morons, now someone else is gonna get gyped. Nice.
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IlIlNine wrote:
What are you looking for?


DDR1 laptop memory, 333mhz, 1gb. You'd think this would be easy, but no; and the places I found were immovably expensive--$75, despite the fact that the Korean owned places working out of california sell it for $55.
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