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[cbclark4]

Having no real artist ability.

I like to take lot's of pictures and then just keep a couple to print.

I have been looking at the Canon Powershot SD-1000.

So what do you have and why do you like it?

[twg]

I had a couple of pretty good Dimage series camera, but then I spilled Harpeau's beer on it.

But, Konica Minolta stopped making them so outside of that I have no other suggestions.

[cbclark4]

Thank you kindly for your insight.

I had not considered Minolta until your response here.

I hope others will participate in this thread.

[cbclark4]

I am no longer considering the Canon powershot SD1000.

I am now looking more closely at the Pentax A30.

I am also looking at the Casio EX-1050.

The biggest difference seems to be the A30 has Image Stabilization and a larger LCD with better resolution.

The A30 costs more.

I'll also accept bad advice, so if you have no opinion and just want to pretend that you know something about Ultra Compact Digital cameras please respond with harsh words and cynical criticism.

[chevro1et]

have a look here:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=94631&highlight=digital+camera

[ajgeddes]

I wouldn't buy a camera for it's LCD. While maybe an eventual factor in breaking a tie between two cameras, who cares about the LCD?

[Rteacher]

I bought a Casio Exilim (I can't remember the model number - but it was 6 megapixels) over a year ago, and it was a mistake, I think.

It took excellent pictures, but apparently there was a design flaw (according to some customer reviews I saw belatedly) with the extra-large LCD screen and extra-thin size. It soon developed a crack - I think just from my putting it in my pocket (without the case) and walking around...

Casio doesn't warrantee that item in Korea, and the price quoted for replacing the LCD (I think 200,000 won) was well over half the price I paid for the camera at Technomart...

[migooknom]

[cbclark4]

Thank you for the info Chevy.

I had a post in the Tech forum that wasn't getting any traction.

I saw the DSLR post here and figured I might get some interest here.

It's hard keeping up with the advances.

[itaewonguy]

mine is great the canon 850is
the only con is the nighttime flash in darkness creates spots in the pics..
but all other aspects of it is great!!

[Gatsby]

I, Mr. Gatsby, do hearby swear that I will never, ever open another thread about cameras, or threads asking for opinions about cameras, every again.

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Get my point?

[ajgeddes]

I hearby take the gun away from your head that made you open all the previous threads.