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[bacasper]

I purchased the books for this course recommended by efl-law. However, it has been THREE WEEKS SINCE I submitted my first module for grading, and a similar amount of time since I complained that all the required readings for Module 2 are nowhere to be found in the purchased books.

Repeated emails to the course instructor have gone unanswered. AVOID this course like the plague.

If anyone has a telephone number for them or the instructor, I'd appreciate it.

In the meanwhile, please send me one of those PMs (in case I manage toget back my $).

[spliff]

Got a specific name for the course you are speaking to?

[bacasper]

I don't want to violate any Korean libel laws so I won't completely spell out A**** EFL J******.

[Smee]

Yeah, at one point I considered doing that course, but I became distracted by other things. That the book doesn't contain all of the reading material---especially since that was the claim---really limited the modules I was able to do.

One module that sounded interesting and applicable to my situation/experience---can't remember the name over a year later---was based almost entirely on a different book . . . that wouldn't have been a problem had I been near my university library, but as I was in Korea, and as I obviously had no access to it, I had to scrap that idea. Some of the other readings were only available online, so I spent my freetime printing out hundreds of pages of articles and speeches. I eventually decided not to pursue the course.

I find that to be a 3rd-tier journal anyway. The articles on Korea, at least the ones I saw before I stopped checking in 2005, were ridiculous and half-assed. The articles on China for the China-based module were incredibly one-sided and were a very superficial account of the native speaker phenomenon there. Reading article after article on "unqualified" foreigners made me want to strike back with a huge essay (oh, but the modules only have to be 800 words long . . . this post is damn near 800 words long). It's very charitable, I suppose, to have so many foreign writers, although I'd like to see some serious academic work done by native speakers in Asia. But save for the Metropolitican, we're out of luck.

Anyway, rant over.

[spliff]

How many hours is this course?

[tob55]

The course is a 120 program that is definitely more academic in nature than many of the others out there...There is a lot of reading and submission of essays when working towards your certification...I signed up for the course once upon a time, but later decided I had too much on the plate for me to do the work they were asking for...Not that I intended to not take it after buying the books, but it just didn't work out...Too bad that the original OP hasn't heard back anything. I know the owner and he is quite busy these days. You might try to see if there are other email contacts you could inquire to...

The original program was somewhat free, but eventually they felt they needed to charge tuition to justify the amount of work they were doing when processing the students papers...I have had little contact with anyone from there other than attending a conference this past spring, but they did seem to be a top notch program at that time...

[tzechuk]

OP - if you had asked about it on here before you started the course, I am someone could've told you NOT to do your course with that place.

PM me if you want more info.

[richardlang]

I don't know Korea's libel law, but I don't understand how merely stating the fact that you've not received your reading and test materials would violate any law. It's a fact, you've not heard back from them. It's a fact, you've submitted your first module.

[bacasper]

[purple_buddha]

The OP is talking about this program: http://www.asian-efl-journal.com/TESOL_Certificate.php

The owner/operator who is listed on this page http://www.time-taylor.com/about.php
is/was the person behind efl-law.com Korea, so it's no accident the site endorses this particular certificate course. He is a lawyer, businessman, and well-known efl expert in Korea, thus the OP is afraid of legal retaliation.

BTW, a similar thread was posted about this TESOL program on the efl-law Korea forum, http://www.koreabridge.com/jobforums/index.php
The entire thread mysteriously disappeared a couple of days ago.

There is no telephone contact information for either Time Taylor or the Asian EFL Journal websites. However, there is a physical address. Try writing a letter demanding a refund and the reason(s) why and keep a record. Perhaps the evaluators involved with your course are out of the country or something.

I hope you're issued a full refund. Unless weeks or months of dead air are considered providing an educational service by the company to whom you paid tuition and are stipulated as such in your agreement with them, you are justified in getting your money back.

[pest2]

[cubanlord]

[purple_buddha]

cubanlord wrote:

[angelgirl]

Why not email the president of Asia TEFL?
Start at the top?

[cubanlord]