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Treefarmer
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 Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: Anarchism - What's your view? |
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Ya-ta Boy
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Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| It's both silly and dangerous. A bad mix. A very bad mix. |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| Nice idea in theory, but we are not highly evolved enough to deal with it. |
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Treefarmer
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Nice idea in theory, but we are not highly evolved enough to deal with it. |
but the same applies to any 'grand theory' surely?
it isn't like capitalism works..... |
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arjuna
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Nice idea in theory, but we are not highly evolved enough to deal with it. |
For the color-blind, color is a theory. For the deaf, sound is a theory.
Anyway, let's wait a while. But I am getting really tired... |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| it isn't like capitalism works..... |
You should call a press conference and inform the world public, because this is vital information. They are all living in capitalist countries (except Cuba and NK) or trying desperately to do so. |
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Treefarmer
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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| it isn't like capitalism works..... |
You should call a press conference and inform the world public, because this is vital information. They are all living in capitalist countries (except Cuba and NK) or trying desperately to do so. |
the idea of capitalism is that everyone has free access to the market, how does this apply to fucked up countries like china, america etc where poor kids are often written off before they get to 15 years old, and that is where the money is... |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:15 am Post subject: |
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the idea of capitalism is that everyone has free access to the market, how does this apply to *beep* up countries like china, america etc where poor kids are often written off before they get to 15 years old, and that is where the money is...
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It would appear from your comment that if something isn't black then it is white.
Would you not agree that capitalism works just fine for rich kids, middle class kids and that portion of poor kids who are not written off and end up doing well? |
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| Nine thumbs up to anarchy. |
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Treefarmer
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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the idea of capitalism is that everyone has free access to the market, how does this apply to *beep* up countries like china, america etc where poor kids are often written off before they get to 15 years old, and that is where the money is...
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It would appear from your comment that if something isn't black then it is white.
Would you not agree that capitalism works just fine for rich kids, middle class kids and that portion of poor kids who are not written off and end up doing well? |
not really considering what it costs, and the state of most rich kids i meet
if you look at how the world is, the kids who it works out for are less than 10% of any generation, and they aren't generally that happy considering their priveledged status, plus there is the constant threat of nuclear war or the seemingly inevitable threat from global warming/oil shortages/water shortages/financial collapses etc
i wouldn't say capitalism is doing all that great |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| Hmmm...life span has doubled, small pox wiped out, people die from the consequences of making bad choices among the surplus of food available rather than starvation...it looks like capitalism is working. |
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Treefarmer
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| Hmmm...life span has doubled, small pox wiped out, people die from the consequences of making bad choices among the surplus of food available rather than starvation...it looks like capitalism is working. |
it works in the top 8 countries, and even there people tend to make bad choices when they are excluded from the elite (funnily enough)
i definetely woulnd't say it's working for sierra leone or burma |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| Puerile and simply stupid. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Puerile and simply stupid. |
Ditto the above quote.
puerile
One entry found for puerile.
Main Entry: pu�er�ile
Pronunciation: 'pyu(-&)r-&l, -"I(-&)l
Function: adjective
Etymology: French or Latin; French pu�ril, from Latin puerilis, from puer boy, child; akin to Sanskrit putra son, child and perhaps to Greek pais boy, child -- more at FEW
1 : JUVENILE
2 : CHILDISH, SILLY
Why the need to attack others of differing opinions? So many needless enemies created. The poster is making a statement of fact: it is not working. Based on what? What he or she expects of an economic system, not, and let me be absolutely clear on this, what *you* want of one.
Anyone who thinks that capitalism in its present form is the best we can do is basically a fatalist who thinks the world is hopeless. The *majority* of the world lives in poverty. Not a minority, a majority. How does that equal capitalism is "working"? |
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Big fan. Anarchy argues for devolution of power; localized, small-scale, democratic self-government; libertarian social values; and mutual support. When we deserve it, it's what we'll have.
I'm also a realist, and recognize that there are a large number of forces working against these ideas. The unlikelihood of realizing an anarchist condition doesn't mean that these ideas should not be taken seriously. Even if not fully realized, I think that they contribute positively to the debate on what kind of society we have.
We should also take care not to mix up serious anarchist thought with nihilism, which is puerile. It's easy to do, though, when nihilists so often claim to be anarchists. |
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